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One's legal and one's illegal?
i fail to see why one being legal and one being illegal[^1] should have any bearing on the response or treating the people with basic human dignity. committing a crime also does not make one worthy of death--and especially not when that crime is one without a victim like illegal immigration.
[^1]: and i don't think the latter should be illegal (certainly not meaningfully so), to be clear. i am morally opposed to the idea of hard borders.
I agree with you. And I do understand why, and I don't like it:
I think it is more about the profile of the people in need.
Wasn't there a billionaire on board of that vessel? Their family probably got some influence to force this massive operation. And we idolize these big money havers.
And what money do the immigrants have? It is an ongoing issue for the EU (as an example). It looks like the EU doesn't even want these people. Sure, they begrudgingly accept people, when they arrive. Sure there is an effort to safe them... But if some are lost on the way. Less mouth to feed.
Once again: my pessimistic observations. Personally, I feel ashamed of this whole thing.
The Titan sub has a dude who went to space with the Amazon guy along with two members of one of Pakistan's richest families who are heavily involved in a petrochemical company.
Fucking agree so hard.
It's not illegal to seek asylum.
Is it really a crime to be human based on geo location and net worth? To me it doesn't make any sense.
I think you mean one is full of rich people the other not.
What law did the migrants break?
Does the Coast Guard do a thorough investigation of anyone that is in need of their services and establish everyone is innocent of any potential crime before rescuing people
The Earth belongs to every being. No one is illegal anywhere here.
Beau (of the fifth column) has a cool shirt that says something like "Beyond these borders do not lie a lesser people."
lol, for a good reason these borders will be destroyed soon. Every year brings us much closer to the mass migrations from countries too hot and too poor to live in. It's funny people don't realize this and they still believe in their mighty borders, so freaking privileged and supercilious.
If govts wanted to do anything good for the people, the should've invested humongous money in education and try to make people immune to disinformation and brainless far right movement. They haven't done anything. Even if they tried now, it's too late. It should be done years ago. But greedy politicians only wants money from their billionaire bribers.
How can a human be illegal? And which law governs the Titanic sub’s operation?
People aren't illegal.
The submarine venture may have been legal on paper but they definitely committed some crimes, at very least negligence. $250K ticket price is a giant red flag and if it's allowed at all it should increase their liability, with the talk of the ignored concerns it sounds like an outright grift.
So you should just be left to die if you get shot while committing a crime?
Regardless people deserve to be rescued if possible.