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It’s falling because the cars are garbage. Slightly cutting the prices doesn’t make them any less garbage. You could get an EV from a reputable brand for much less.
Tesla isn’t the cheapest but “much less” is inaccurate, especially once the tax credit (at least in the US) comes into play and as you try to find like-for-like range and features.
The bolt ev/euv is cheaper and has all the features except an “autopilot”, which is a plus that your car won’t kill you
It's also microsized compared to the Model 3 and most any other EV.
The EUV doesn't really compare.
Currently no access to the Supercharger network, a much slower fast-charging curve, the ADAS features lag Autopilot, the center console is laggy, and for the nerds who care, Tesla's API isn't closed down like OnStar. It's rear cargo ties and Carplay support are the only bonuses. The Bolt EUV is even losing features -- this year's model removed heated seats, putting further reliance on running a heater, which is a bad thing for range.
The car doesn't kill you, people not paying attention while driving kills. NHTSA's primary investigation is basically about drivers of Tesla vehicles not paying attention and determining if Tesla is being aggressive enough about focus detection.
And yes, I considered purchasing one or going to the Mustang Mach-E. The Mach-E is a much more viable contender. The Bolt EUV was very unimpressive and not really comparable.
Unfortunately they are being discontinued and the leftover inventory is hard to find in my experience.
They were being discontinued but I got told by someone the other day they got recontinued due to feedback on the cancellation
You are correct, Chevy's messaging has been confusing. The current bolt is ending production this year and a new bolt platform is being developed, with most people expecting a release no sooner than 2025.
Ah great, super clear GM, good job. Thanks for the clarification
I don't know why Lemmy hates Tesla so much. Hate Elon, sure, he's probably behind the crazy quotas leading to poor build quality and definitely behind overselling FSD, but if it wasn't for Tesla we would still have no viable EVs. I hope competition makes a good one soon but right now Tesla is the best EV with the best charging network. Lots of people are driving them now.
They're hellishly expensive cars. They harvest data, and if you opt out your car may become useless. They exaggerate the car statistics, like driving range. The build quality is frequently poor, with visible panel gaps (that cheap-arse Dacias don't even have), rear bumpers that fall off due to rainfall, they are prone to rust, and the FSD despite clearly not being "fully self driving" or even road safe is available as an extra subscription, that people actively pay for and make use of making the roads less safe.
That's just the tip of the iceberg as well. Like how replacing the battery costs as much as buying a new car. Or the fact that the already shitty battery life gets even worse when it gets cold, leading to people getting stuck on the motorway in the winter, forcing them to get a taxi and abandon their car.
Perhaps Tesla started off well back in the late 00s, but Musk's been doing nothing but bullshit since the moment he got his grubby little hands on the thing. There are awful stories coming from the factories involving racism, frequent injuries (the factory in Germany is laughable, and it's shocking it hasn't been shut down), and really worrying things have been said even about the software its running on.
Then there's all the weird-ass design decisions, like replacing the steering wheel with a yoke, without adding servo steering meaning it's just a malshaped steering wheel. They've also paved the way for bullshit capacitive touch areas rather than buttons, and tacked actual important functions like turn signals on them.
If you accidentally caress the fart button and make the bloody thing do lmao memez hilariouz farting, no one gets injured. Miscommunicating your intention in traffic could lead to deaths.
It's a bad company, and they're bad cars.
This rant is unproductive, incorrect, and wildly exaggerated.
No. Welcome to the new price of cars.
Opted out. Car still usable.
Edmunds found they aren't that far off, especially seeing that the range estimates are all over the place.
Sure, I'll give this one to you. While it's a no-fuss operation to get them to fix it, it shouldn't come out the factory.
Isolated.
When?
What other ADAS software have you used?
If the vehicle gives 2-3 warning messages before engaging it and consistently reminds the driver to pay attention, there's not much more the car can do here if a driver wants to screw off.
Which EV has a cheap battery replacement? Teslas are down to about $12-15k, which in 2023, is cheaper than a new car.
All EV batteries lose range in the winter. Most manufacturers have a feature to pre-warm the battery to reduce the effects of this. Nobody's leaving their cars on the motorway either.
Tesla wasn't shipping a car until his money became involved.
I don't know enough about German manufacturing to comment, but I'd be interested in learning more about factory accident rates of Tesla vs. other carmakers.
Like what?
So personal preferences.
And this was reverted to a wheel by default now on the S/X, which were the only two vehicles having this as an option.
... have you seen other vehicles? Mercedes and Volkswagen (though, now backing off) is going down this route
Personal preference.
Can you show where this dedicated fart button is?
Amazing job going point by point! We need this type of sanity check
It's a decent enough company owned by a sack of shit, and the cars are pretty good.
Please list the cars available “for much less” with equivalent range. We’ll wait.
The marketing stated range or the actual range, cause reality is a bitch
That is an odd flex considering Tesla is currently being sued for lying about that very thing.
Yes, they were talking about Tesla's deceptively marketed range.
Range, performance, and features. I hate Musk as much as the next person, but let's not act like Teslas aren't the standard for EVs price-to-performance wise.