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Food is 2-3x the price it was just a few years ago, yet you're gonna roll your eyes cause people can't afford even more expensive goods? Fuck off.
Where do you live? At least in Europe, food definetly isn't 2-3x more expensive. Apart from that, the question is not whether your XXL hamburger from BurgerKing just had a 150% price hike but rather if you can still shop your (fresh, healthy) groceries.
With a secured baseline standard of living, we all will have to get accustomed to that fact that won't be able to afford that many fast, unsustainablez trashy products.
Best example off the top off my head. 2 years ago russet potatoes were about $0.75 per pound, last week they were just under $2.00 a pound. Just a little more expensive week by week
But yeah yell me more about those trashy unsustainable spuds.
Ok, I didn't know that. Prices here haven't risen this high.
Not to be condescending, but is food even such a big factor in cost of living?
It is if you literally can only afford the necessities. It does come off a bit condescending, yes. I'm the US, we have corporations that are literally making record profits by using inflation and sustainable sourcing as an excuse to increase the price of products far above the cost increase and then we figure out after the fact that their pledges to sustainability are worth fuck all. It doesn't help the fact that we have literal "food deserts" where the nearest grocery store is over an hour away and the only closer options you have are convenience stores and fast food. Try voting with your wallet in one of those places.
Thank you for giving me your perspective, I feel somewhat bad now for my comments..
Groceries is that area in a budget that you can adjust to 'scrape by' so it can feel sensitive to price fluctuations more than other things. It's also a $2400+ a year, which is not nothing and is in fact quite a lot for a lot of people. Psychologically it feels like getting kicked in the dick by the economy when I go grocery shopping. I adapt, but it hurts.
Groceries are 6.5-8% of my net income. If I spent the same amount on monthly food that my friends spend it'd be around 15%-20% which would put me in the negative each month. So I also think there is something in here about lifestyle or socioeconomic status which translates into grocery spend.
But not to be totally discouraging... I might not be able to eat well every day, but I can eat well periodically and still hit my budget.
Here in the US grocery store chains are fucking our asses with these prices.
Where I'm located a whole, raw chicken is $17 :(
Back in 2023 I could feed 2 people for 40-50 a week. 70 if we're splurging.
Now we're spending about 75-100 a week for bare necessities , if we want to splurge it's closer to 120-140.
I don't even buy alcohol any more since it's out of our budget.
We cook for 12-14 meals a week and we eat out 1 meal.
I have all of my historical data because I keep a budget on my excel sheet. I can pull up exact numbers.
I'm located in Germany.
Back in 2023?