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The territorial violation by China is the latest in a series of events amplifying tensions between Beijing and Japan.

A Chinese military surveillance plane breached Japanese airspace off the country’s southwestern coast on Monday, marking what Japan’s defense ministry described as the first known incursion by China’s military into its territorial airspace.

According to a ministry official, a Chinese reconnaissance aircraft briefly entered Japanese territory near Nagasaki Prefecture around 11:30 a.m. on Monday. In response, Japan’s Self-Defense Force put fighter jets on high alert and issued a warning to the Chinese aircraft.

While Chinese planes frequently appear in international airspace around Japan, this incident represents the first confirmed entry of a military aircraft into Japan’s territorial airspace.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Then it seems like there's a leap of logic between "cargo plane" and "reconnaissance aircraft". Very possible it was just an inexperienced/behind schedule pilot cutting corners on the route.

Seems like a dick move to kill an entire plane full of people because someone decided to short-cut through your airspace.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Very possible it was just an inexperienced/behind schedule pilot cutting corners on the route.

In a vacuum, maybe. In the context of how China has been acting towards nearly all of their neighbors recently, not likely. This reeks of wolf warrior diplomacy.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

In the context of how China has been acting towards nearly all of their neighbors

The Western reporting coverage of Chinese military operations is slanted to paint China as an aggressor, in the same way Western reporting of Iraq in the early 2000s was slanted to paint Iraqis as terrorists.

You don't read about American military aircraft invading Japanese airspace because Japan is occupied territory. You don't read about Taiwanese aircraft invading Chinese airspace, because there's no defined territorial line between them on account of Taiwan being contested territory.

This reeks of wolf warrior diplomacy.

China sending a single Rambo-esque supersoldier in to liberate native peoples from an evil mercenary army?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Dude what? China’s near-daily incursions over Taiwan have escalated and escalated to an objectively ridiculous level. Nobody “painting” shit.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

China’s near-daily incursions over Taiwan

This is what we're defining as an "incursion over Taiwan".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The Western reporting coverage of Chinese military operations is slanted to paint China as an aggressor

China is literally aggressive in both active and passive ways, maybe some news outlets are exaggerating a little for clicks, but it's not by much

You don't read about American military aircraft invading Japanese airspace because Japan is occupied territory.

Japan isn't "occupied territory" they are a US ally who allows us to have a base there for rapid response and protection.

You don't read about Taiwanese aircraft invading Chinese airspace, because there's no defined territorial line between them on account of Taiwan being contested territory.

Lol, nah, Taiwan is a country the only one contesting it is China in the same way that Russia is "contesting" that Ukraine is their territory.

This reeks of wolf warrior diplomacy.

China sending a single Rambo-esque supersoldier in to liberate native peoples from an evil mercenary army?

  1. It's called strategic boundary pushing China has been known to do such things with their other neighbors

  2. You reek of a China apologist

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

China is literally aggressive in both active and passive ways

Are we doing the "Chinese Weather Balloon" hysteria again?

Japan isn’t “occupied territory” they are a US ally

Starting in which year?

Taiwan is a country the only one contesting it is China

Where does Taiwanese airspace end and Chinese airspace begin? Would it surprise you to discover that Taiwan claims airspace over the south end of China?

I know folks on here love making the "East Taiwan" joke, but are you seriously going to argue that Xiamen and Fuzhou are also part of Taiwan?

It’s called strategic boundary pushing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are we doing the “Chinese Weather Balloon” hysteria again?

If the US sent a bunch of weather balloons into Chinese airspace without any warning and they approached government and military sites, would you say the same thing?

Without explicit permission from the government it is a breach of sovereignty. The US had the right to annihilate all of those balloons the instant they passed into US airspace -- just like China has the right to destroy the hypothetical US balloons as soon as they pass into Chinese airspace.

For how often China beats the drum about sovereignty, they should know this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

If the US sent a bunch of weather balloons into Chinese airspace without any warning

China claimed Monday that the United States flew spy balloons into Chinese airspace more than 10 times since January 2022 without Beijing's permission, accusations that further ratcheted up tensions between the two countries amid mutual allegations of surveillance.

The US had the right to annihilate all of those balloons the instant they passed into US airspace

The US feds panicked at the bad press and created a rain of falling debris over South Carolina. Heck of a job.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Are we doing the "Chinese Weather Balloon" hysteria again?

Ah yea, when people are concerned when a near-hostile country sends over unknown aircraft unannounced it's just "hysteria". Not like those weather balloons are perfectly capable of carrying bombs or biowarfare contagions or anything.....

Starting in which year?

April 28, 1952 when the San Francisco Peace Treaty that was signed on September 8, 1951 went into effect.

Here's a wikipedia article all about US-Japan relations since you appear to have flunked highschool history

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

a near-hostile country sends over unknown aircraft

A country's biggest trading partner losing control of a very-well-established-as-weather-balloon aircraft.

April 28, 1952 when the San Francisco Peace Treaty that was signed on September 8, 1951 went into effect.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Course

Fascinating stuff for a fully democratic and not-at-all militarily occupied country to undergo. If you're into Wikipedia articles, you should give it a read. Full consolidation of economic power under a few US-loyal Zaibatsus that dominate the country into the modern day. Rearming of a police force loyal to the occupying US government, which was dedicated to busting up unions and crippling the nascent labor-rights movement in the country. And rapid expansion of military bases, in the run up to the US invasion and aerial bombardment of the Korean Peninsula.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Why does this picture place a US military base in Hong Kong?

Edit: also, identification zone =/= claimed airspace

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

US aircraft carriers patrol the territory regularly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not a mistake anyone would make accidentally. They wouldn’t be allowed to fly near hostile territory without being well informed of the risks and consequences. This was a planned and deliberate action, or Chinas airforce is incompetent and can’t be trusted.

Both are dangerous and shouldn’t be tolerated in your territory.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago

Not a mistake anyone would make accidentally.

It's a routine mistake that happens regularly, particularly when there is a large amount of traffic and a crop of younger personal.

Both are dangerous and shouldn’t be tolerated in your territory.

We've flipped from "China is being too hostile" to "The US isn't being hostile enough".

But it turns out they're two sides of the same coin. Americans simply can't get enough war.