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Highway spending increased by 90% in 2021. This is one of many reasons why car traffic is growing faster than population growth.

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[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Walking: Can't cover large distances quickly. Not sure why that's even included in this?

Bus: Pollution source whether it carries passengers or not. No service in rural areas. 1 crash = 69 people injured. Pathogen hotbox. You can't smash in one.

Bicycle: 1 thunderstorm = misery. Limited range and can't travel on motorways/freeways.

Car: Only pollutes when you use it. Goes anywhere you want 24/7/365. You can definitely smash in one. Carries big things like a trolley full of groceries or IKEA furniture.

E-Cars etc.: All the benefits of the car plus no pollution. Huge smugness boost.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

Walking: a great form of transportation for short distances. However too much modern infrastructure gets in the way of walking. We should be able to walk more places than we do, even just from one store to the next. I did live in a city carlessly for a while and the combination of transit and walking was much more convenient than cars, most of the time

Bus: if you don’t mind the audience ….

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'm not against having a car for when I need it. I'm against pretty much requiring it to be a functional adult to do just about anything without public transit becoming my new hobby.

Work: 20min drive, 1h 20min transit, 2h bike

Groceries: 10min drive, 45min transit

This includes a bunch of walking to/from stops and half the time spent waiting since my city's public transit hub/spoke model is designed for airplanes requiring you to bounce between hubs.

There also isn't consistency. A favorable route might only come once every few hours. If one hop is running late, it can wreck the whole route.

My work route is pretty direct but it takes 12min walking, 0-20min waiting for a bus to my local hub, 0-40min waiting for the right train, and another 15min walking to the office. If they got those wait times down to like 10-20min total, I'd be more inclined to use it. Right now "something" comes every 20min, but sometimes the routes alternate so your route may come every 40min instead of 20min.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

adventures in missing the point and faulty comparisons.

Also, cars are extremely wasteful when not in use. They have to be parked somewhere and that's space not used productively.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 months ago

You mean you CAN smash on a bus?? Outstanding :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

A car pollutes as its materials are mined from the ground and smelted into metals. A car pollutes when oils are refined for its various plastics and lubricants. A car pollutes when it is retired to a scrap yard to sit leaking oil until it is crushed and recyled (polluting through that process too).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

To be honest, I hadn't even noticed that I was commenting in the "Fuck Cars" group cos I just responded to something that popped up in my feed. I'm not about trying to be disruptive in someone else's house. I was going for humor more than anything. Sorry.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

None of this is true for busses. They're made of and run on magic

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Buses service more people per pollution over their lifecycle.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's a MUCH better argument and the one you should stick with.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That was the argument the entire time, you smug imbecile

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No his argument was that cars pollute when they're not running and implying that buses don't, you smug imbecile.