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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They'll never agree to a 4 day work week, because then they know they'll be looking at a 3 day work week one day.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is the war that's coming.

More and more processes are automatic, and AI is now breaking down the last holdout of "manual" jobs.

How will that future, where only a small percentage of mankind actually needs to work, look like? It could be heaven, but it's shaping up to be hell unless we win these fights.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

The future where only some people need to work will literally never come. It relies on the premise that the ownership class will give up ownership. They will not.

The machines that increase the productivity and reduce the need for manual labor will just increase profit for the owner/shareholders. Increases in productivity mean ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for the common person. You already hear this argument now in the form of "I took the risk and put up capital to run the business so I deserve the lions share of profits." That argument will just become "I put forward the capital to buy the machines that produce the products, why do you deserve any of it!?"

The same could be said for AI. "I paid for the license to run this AGI, why should you get anything from my profit!?"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I mean for some AI at least it was directly trained on material from random internet people. I deserve money from any chatgpt work because I made a lot of Reddit comments.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

While I agree...

Asshole CEOs: YoU PuT iT iN a PuBlIc SpAcE sO iT's MiNe NoW!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah and then they'll turn around and say the exact opposite of oh it's a private server so we own your information because it's private and you agreed to it by using our service

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

That's why you've got to take it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unlikely. While a 4 day week generates more profit with happier workers, a 3 day week doesn't.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I just don't see us moving down to a 5 day work week from six. God already gave us one day off for us to find happiness in his glory I don't see what a second day would add to it. And how will the factories make money when the children aren't there to run the machines?