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The Paxiti classic (lemmy.world)
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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Whether the author intends to reinforce that idea or not, the comic itself (having one character say "Honest! I just like looking at women's asses better than men's!" while the other one says "hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm no I think you're trans") very much does.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also the other character is committing blatant violations of the egg prime directive by deliberately questioning another person's gender identity in response to the person saying why they like doing something. This is extremely disrespectful to that person and dismisses their identity. The biggest problem is that even though this is describing something internal for the person, it is normalizing something which is disrespectful to the identities of others.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

But okay, is it just the framing that's the issue here? Would the meme be fine if it depicted an internal dialogue by the creator? Is it purely an issue because of the existence of the friend character?

I'm assuming this to be the case based on what the sidebar shows as the "egg prime directive". Which in and of itself is a valid issue with the content. I think it's a pretty uncharitable interpretation, but yeah I can see how it normalizes that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think that it would be significantly better had it been framed as an internal dialogue rather than external criticism. It might still be a bit problematic if it phrases the reasons given as invalid, rather than just not what it is for them, because even though to many people it feels like they said something stupid, they weren't, those are valid, real reasons why people do it. The idea that the reasons aren't valid as opposed to being simply not the reasons for themself in their case is also not great in the same way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's possible that I'm reading it differently, but I see the reasons being portrayed not as invalid in and of themselves, but rather as being weak attempts at excusing their own actual motivations for playing as girls and women.

I also didn't play as female characters because of their clothing options or their appearance being more aesthetically appealing. It was in fact because I wanted to be perceived and acknowledged as a girl and that was the closest it was permissible for me to get. I definitely expressed excuses at times for it as well. I think this is actually a very common experience for transfeminine people. Not universal, nor does it mean those things have any innate value.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I guess it can be interpreted differently by different people. Though I do feel that at least in the original communities it is posted in on Reddit and Twitter it's very likely it'll be read as invalid or a poor excuse in general, rather than them covering their own motivations. I say that because in the Reddit versions (and a tiny bit the Twitter versions as well) there is generally more of a sentiment that gender non-conformity is a "sign" or are "signs" and they generally are very dismissive of reasons like the ones given. They have a poor record of following the egg prime directive and I have in fact seen on r/traa2 people blatantly shit talking it and saying they would never follow it 😬.

So while I do get that there can be different interpretations, a generalized one (the not so great one) and a personalized one (the better one) I do recognize the communities they were originally posted to on Reddit and Twitter, and I do know which ones they tend to gravitate towards.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Fuck you, hiding behind the Egg prime directive so you can deny trans people the ability to break out of their eggs, you should be ashamed of yourself whoever made you a mod of a trans friendly space should be ashamed of themselves, you're not even trans you have no right to determine whether we are valid or not. Fuck you hiding behind vague ass ideology. LET TRANS PEOPLE HELP OUT EGGS IN DENIAL!