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People living next to Santiago Bernabéu venue say gigs – including those by Taylor Swift – are ruining their lives and are taking action.

Although best known for the past eight decades as the home of Real Madrid, the ground, which has just undergone a five-year, €900m (£756m) refurbishment, has over the past four months been hosting a series of high-profile concerts.

If the gigs have helped put the Bernabéu on the map with visiting singers such as Taylor Swift, Luis Miguel and, for four consecutive nights this week, the Colombian star Karol G, they have driven local residents to despair. Some have taken to referring to the stadium as a torturódromo, or torture-drome.

Fed up with decibels far exceeding legal levels, fans camping out in parks, drunk people urinating in doorways and the blocking off of residential roads, an association representing those living around the Bernabéu in the Chamartín neighbourhood is taking legal action against those responsible, including Madrid city council.

“It’s just hideous – you can’t move your car, you can’t take the dog out, and you’re having to prepare yourself mentally because it’s awful,” says De Pontevès. “It also creates health problems – lots of us are suffering from more frequent headaches, stress, anxiety and depression.”

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 3 months ago (5 children)

It's kinda weird I have to use hearing protection at every concert since the 90s, sometimes even in cinemas. Too loud has become normal.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honestly in this age of over cautious health and safety it's complete madness easily quantifiable permanent damaging volume is allowed.

Like even a warning and free earplugs are not given. Nothing.

"Here you go children. You pay we will give you a life long disability."

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This and super bright car headlights

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (2 children)

IMO most car headlights have actually gotten better in recent years. Previously the luxury xenon or laser headlights were absolutely blinding, but modern LED headlights offer a great view of the road at night without blinding others. But I’m only speaking to stock models. Huge lifted trucks with no headlight angle adjustment, massive LED light bars, and shitty super bright aftermarket modifications are still awful

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I would disagree. Factory, unmodified vehicles with factory fit LED lights are more often than not utterly blinding. Honda models come to mind first. Stellantis, especially Ram trucks (again, not the lifted or modified ones) and Cadillac SUV's are all painfully bright from the perspective of my average height Station Wagon.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

To a degree, yes some cars now don't have those blinding lights but at least here in Australia it's not the majority. Parking lights are usually fine, but headlights are most often awful. They're supposed to dim in proximity of other cars yet it hardly ever happens. And what's worse is that for a lot of models, the driver has no control over this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Interesting. Here in the US my car has automatic day running lights, those are thin LED strips that brighten nothing on the road, but make my car more visible while driving. Those are turned on automatically when I start my car, but I can turn them off. Then I have my actual headlights, which should only be used at night. I can manually control those, though my car will automatically turn the headlights on if it detects it’s dark outside. Then I have high beams, which I need to manually turn on, are much brighter, and are meant to illuminate very dark roads. And my car has auto high beams, so they can automatically turn themselves off when they detect an oncoming car. I think a big issue is people turning their high beams on at night and not realizing they should only be used on dark empty roads, not when you are driving on a road with traffic. I’m surprised headlights are turned on by default and can’t be controlled.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

They can't be dimmed manually. On and off is a different story, though most people drive with their lights on at night, even in roads that have lights- and that's fine.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even just regular bars. I keep earplugs on my keychain to bring any time I go out. It's absurd that anyone thinks this is acceptable.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I forgot mine once but happened to have two AAA batteries in my pocket. I looked weird but I can didn't go deaf. (It was a seated event.)

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Its because every fucking audio engineer the last 2 decades has fallen into the "louder trap" until the noise floor and ceiling are one in the same. Every fucking venue I've ever been to has always violated safe decibel levels. Always bring hearing protection these audio engineers have just been fed "louder better" for a long time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Did anyone see Civil War in theaters? Literally the loudest movie I’ve ever seen. It was on the verge of painful. I get it, immersive war, whatever. But Jesus. Some of us would like to keep our hearing into our 40s/50s, thanks.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The last movie I went to in the theatre, I put in earplugs from the get go. I haven't been to many movies in the theatre in decades, but I wanted to be cautious.

I could hear every sound from the movie with great clarity. Every whisper was still loud enough to bust through the earplugs. It's just insane how loud they set it all up to be. How is that a good and attractive thing?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I do it every Christopher Nolan movie. There was an interview with him after Interstellar released and they read him some of viewer reviews. One of them was just "it's pretty loud", and he just laughed...

Love most of his work, but I'm not losing my hearing over it. They're not that good.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

I use hearing aids since I was a kid and have to take them off when going to the cinema in order to hear normal.