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What a frickin dumpster fire. The EBU fāed up hard. Also so much for not politicising Eurovision, Israel got over 300 points with one of the worst songs of the night! in the same 24 hours it warns of inceasing its bombing campaign in Rafa. I justā¦.. I donāt even have words here. What the f is going on in the world.
There's also the CNN article on the Israeli whistleblowers. Massive trigger warnings for detainment and torture if you look that up. Cripes.
And yet still in the Un. Still invited to Eurovision. Netanyahu Could behead a baby on national tv and so long as he says it was a āterroristā Biden would still suck his dick.
UN won't kick you out for being a genocidal dick, you want dicks to retain UN membership so everyone can yell at them - it's a place where everyone uses their words instead of nukes
With respect, if thats the plan its a shit one. Sure, no one has dropped the hammer yet, but aint done shit all for the suffering.
The purpose of the UN is to get people talking in a room, as opposed to standing on opposite sides of the battlefield. To try and talk it out.
It's not perfect. nothing involving humans is. People seem to think it's like World Police but it's not.
till one of the permanent members of the security council use their veto anyway.
But hear me out, what if it was? Syria. Ukraine. Palestine/Israel. Georgia. Somalia. Civilians dead under the current system. I get nothings perfect, but fuck man we gotta do better than this.
The veto only applies to security council, not geberal assembly and is a bit of a two edged sword.
But in regards to world police? You're trying to use a drill as a hammer. It's not designed for that.
Ok, UN as a world police. How does that work? What actions do they take now?
a drastic rethink of global politics. Real world economic consequences for failing to uphold to a reinvigorated UN rights charter. Treat rights, healthcare, environment, and liberty as ACTUAL enshrined rights of the charter. ACTUALLY enforce it, dont stand around making speeches that amount to fuck all. You wanna invade a neighbor? No worries! But oh btw your cut off from international trade. You wanna be an authoritarian dictator? Go nuts. But we will have a combined strike force knocking on the door politely asking you come with us to face an international court.
NEVER gonna happen. Totally understand that. Would require countries seceding authority to the UN. And we cant even get this shit working at a country level let alone globally. But this is just my bullshit ideas as neither a geopolitical expert or lawyer, there has to be better options. I refuse to believe we cant do better than what we have now.
We let Perfect become the enemy of good.
Ah but Eurovision isn't political. Those bombings? Not our problem. Oh, people are upset at Israel? We'Re NoT pOlItIcAl REEEEEEE!
Palestine isn't a participant. So I guess in a sense "not their problem"? but booting out the Dutch....? Maaaaan.
I wouldn't be surprised if the Dutch didn't participate next year. Joost was my pick too š
Interesting! I wanted Croatia or Austria.
Nah, I reckon they'll just send him again. Given the EBU the real middle finger. Tipping theres gonna be some pretty damning interviews given over the next couple of weeks against the EBU anyway.