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Raises eyebrows

This is like the Democrat version of calling someone a slur

[–] [email protected] 31 points 7 months ago (3 children)

The only thing worse than dying in a house fire is doing that while injecting sewer fumes directly into my lungs

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The graph is accurate. Seeing the corona is a near spiritual experience. It’s the most I’ve ever been aware of floating through space, if that makes sense

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How would it go down if next time they 'complimented' you, you asked "Do you mean that sincerely?" they may need to double down and actually explain how they were praising your work, shifting it into a commendation on your work from then on.

Idk if someone’s trying to neg them, then asking for clarification is opening the door for more bullying. In this scenario I wouldn’t hold my breath for someone to stop being an asshole out of good faith. I really hate being patronized so I would probably go nuclear pretty easy over this specific issue lol.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

Pennsyltucky folks are built different

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago

also TIL we can do citations in comments

Woah, fancy, thanks for sharing.

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Marx talking about capitalist and abstinence reminded me of one idiom, to make money you got to make money. Except it leaves out like the whole, exploitation of buying another person labor power and then taking their unpaid portion and etc. But that idiom in a way feels like a modern day version of like that "abstinence" from the capitalist? Don't spend money for yourself or anything, use to reproduce and accumulate more money.

It's objectively true that you need money (capital) to become wealthy in capitalist society. Capital grows exponentially, through exploitation of an increasing amount of others' labor, instead of linearly through one's personal labor. So I don't find anything wrong with the idiom as such, since it is true within certain bounds.

On the other hand, the notion that abstinence is the reason money grows is completely false. This false justification is due to the fetish character of commodities and the various forms which result from fetishism. For example in chapter 19, the wage form is shown to produce an inverted consciousness of the wage relation, such that it appears that the capitalist and the laborer transact living labor, not labor-power.

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I'm still playing catch-up, but currently on chapter 20.

I love chapters 18 and 19. They seem to be the essence of volume 1 to me, just line after line of epiphany. This is where Marx ties together what he's been building up in the preceding chapters. While in many places before Marx would dig at the classical political economists or hint at things he knew to be true, here he says with full confidence and justification that capitalist production is essentially a new form of slavery; that so far as society is still divided into classes, no substantial progress has occurred with the advent of capitalism, except that the particular form of exploitation and the exploiters have changed.

 
  • U.S. Embassy deemed process “reasonably free and fair”
  • Putin drew 53%, not today’s purported 87% 2000 popularity based on tough Chechnya policy, image of vigorous leader, pension increases
  • What Embassy called “first ever democratic transfer of power” in Russia was managed transition to hand-picked successor

I share this not to suggest it is perfectly accurate regarding the actual history, but to show that the US did not doubt the legitimacy of Putin’s first election, according to US embassy documents.


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cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/1944839

For Marx, substance is synonymous with content.

Chapter 12 of I. I. Rubin’s Essays on Marx’s Theory of Value meticulously investigates the question of content and form, as used by Marx in his theory of value.

Due to his materialist philosophy, Marx adopted what the layman might call a scientific attitude for theorizing about society. This means starting from empirical phenomena, and through analysis (contemplation), developing concepts (categories) which are implied by the phenomena. In short, one starts from concrete forms to discover their underlying, abstract content. This duality of form and content is found throughout Marx’s work, but originates in the theory of Hegel.

As the names imply, form is an accidental or external presentation of content. Just as carbon (content) may variously take the form of either diamond or graphite, so too may content in Marx’s theory take on various forms depending on the circumstances. Therefore, a scientific investigation which moves only from form to content is inadequate, as discovering a form’s content does not uncover the conditions under which the content takes that form. It is necessary to move in the reverse direction, from the abstract substance back to the concrete form.

In volume 1 of Das Kapital, Marx identifies labor as the substance or content of value. But value itself can take on various forms, namely the manifold use-values or useful products of labor. This includes the money-commodity. The fact that all commodities share this common content of value makes them commensurable or exchangeable, since — and Marx quotes Aristotle on this — quantities may only be compared between objects of like quality.

Exchange therefore implies that it is not any labor which forms value, but only abstract social labor. When commodities A and B are exchanged at a given ratio, their concrete and qualitatively different labors are necessarily regarded abstractly as a common kind of labor, in order for their quantities to be commensurable.

So Marx’s investigation takes two paths in succession. The importance of these two paths was first noted by I. I. Rubin at least as early as 1927:

  1. Form to content. Empirical phenomena, forms visible in everyday life, are analyzed through contemplation, in order to theorize about their content, or their inner logic. This path, claims Marx, is as far as earlier political economists ever got. He considers David Ricardo to have discovered the content of value, labor; but he never figured out what kind of labor forms value.^1,2,3,4^
  2. Content to form. Path 1 gives us the starting abstract concept, and now we have to consider the concept in itself, and see how, and under what conditions, that content emerges in the particular forms we observed at the start of Path 1. Along this path we discover that it is not any kind of labor which forms value, but abstract social labor, labor which has been validated as social, in a definite magnitude, by and through the act of exchange.

Footnotes

  1. “Political Economy has indeed analysed, however incompletely, value and its magnitude, and has discovered what lies beneath these forms. But it has never once asked the question why labour is represented by the value of its product and labour time by the magnitude of that value.” — Das Kapital volume 1 chapter 1.
  2. “The insufficiency of Ricardo’s analysis of the magnitude of value, and his analysis is by far the best, will appear from the 3rd and 4th books of this work. As regards value in general, it is the weak point of the classical school of Political Economy that it nowhere expressly and with full consciousness, distinguishes between labour, as it appears in the value of a product, and the same labour, as it appears in the use value of that product.” — Ibid.
  3. “It is one of the chief failings of classical economy that it has never succeeded, by means of its analysis of commodities, and, in particular, of their value, in discovering that form under which value becomes exchange value. Even Adam Smith and Ricardo, the best representatives of the school, treat the form of value as a thing of no importance, as having no connection with the inherent nature of commodities. The reason for this is not solely because their attention is entirely absorbed in the analysis of the magnitude of value. It lies deeper. The value form of the product of labour is not only the most abstract, but is also the most universal form, taken by the product in bourgeois production, and stamps that production as a particular species of social production, and thereby gives it its special historical character. If then we treat this mode of production as one eternally fixed by Nature for every state of society, we necessarily overlook that which is the differentia specifica of the value form, and consequently of the commodity form, and of its further developments, money form, capital form, &c. We consequently find that economists, who are thoroughly agreed as to labour time being the measure of the magnitude of value, have the most strange and contradictory ideas of money, the perfected form of the general equivalent.” — Ibid.
  4. “In order that the commodities may be measured according to the quantity of labour embodied in them—and the measure of the quantity of labour is time—the different kinds of labour contained in the different commodities must be reduced to uniform, simple labour, average labour, ordinary, unskilled labour. Only then can the amount of labour embodied in them be measured according to a common measure, according to time. The labour must be qualitatively equal so that its differences become merely quantitative, merely differences of magnitude. This reduction to simple, average labour is not, however, the only determinant of the quality of this labour to which as a unity the values of the commodities are reduced. That the quantity of labour embodied in a commodity is the quantity socially necessary for its production—the labour-time being thus necessary labour-time—is a definition which concerns only the magnitude of value. But the labour which constitutes the substance of value is not only uniform, simple, average labour; it is the labour of a private individual represented in a definite product. However, the product as value must be the embodiment of social labour and, as such, be directly convertible from one use-value into all others. (The particular use-value in which labour is directly represented is irrelevant so that it can be converted from one form into another.) Thus the labour of individuals has to be directly represented as its opposite, sociallabour; this transformed labour is, as its immediate opposite, abstract, general labour, which is therefore represented in a general equivalent, only by its alienation does individual labour manifest itself as its opposite.” — Theories of Surplus Value, Chapter 20; bold added to emphasize the critical importance of path 2 from my answer, for finding that “determinant of the quality of labor”, i.e. for identifying what kind of labor forms value.
 

For Marx, substance is synonymous with content.

Chapter 12 of I. I. Rubin’s Essays on Marx’s Theory of Value meticulously investigates the question of content and form, as used by Marx in his theory of value.

Due to his materialist philosophy, Marx adopted what the layman might call a scientific attitude for theorizing about society. This means starting from empirical phenomena, and through analysis (contemplation), developing concepts (categories) which are implied by the phenomena. In short, one starts from concrete forms to discover their underlying, abstract content. This duality of form and content is found throughout Marx’s work, but originates in the theory of Hegel.

As the names imply, form is an accidental or external presentation of content. Just as carbon (content) may variously take the form of either diamond or graphite, so too may content in Marx’s theory take on various forms depending on the circumstances. Therefore, a scientific investigation which moves only from form to content is inadequate, as discovering a form’s content does not uncover the conditions under which the content takes that form. It is necessary to move in the reverse direction, from the abstract substance back to the concrete form.

In volume 1 of Das Kapital, Marx identifies labor as the substance or content of value. But value itself can take on various forms, namely the manifold use-values or useful products of labor. This includes the money-commodity. The fact that all commodities share this common content of value makes them commensurable or exchangeable, since — and Marx quotes Aristotle on this — quantities may only be compared between objects of like quality.

Exchange therefore implies that it is not any labor which forms value, but only abstract social labor. When commodities A and B are exchanged at a given ratio, their concrete and qualitatively different labors are necessarily regarded abstractly as a common kind of labor, in order for their quantities to be commensurable.

So Marx’s investigation takes two paths in succession. The importance of these two paths was first noted by I. I. Rubin at least as early as 1927:

  1. Form to content. Empirical phenomena, forms visible in everyday life, are analyzed through contemplation, in order to theorize about their content, or their inner logic. This path, claims Marx, is as far as earlier political economists ever got. He considers David Ricardo to have discovered the content of value, labor; but he never figured out what kind of labor forms value.^1,2,3,4^
  2. Content to form. Path 1 gives us the starting abstract concept, and now we have to consider the concept in itself, and see how, and under what conditions, that content emerges in the particular forms we observed at the start of Path 1. Along this path we discover that it is not any kind of labor which forms value, but abstract social labor, labor which has been validated as social, in a definite magnitude, by and through the act of exchange.

Footnotes

  1. “Political Economy has indeed analysed, however incompletely, value and its magnitude, and has discovered what lies beneath these forms. But it has never once asked the question why labour is represented by the value of its product and labour time by the magnitude of that value.” — Das Kapital volume 1 chapter 1.
  2. “The insufficiency of Ricardo’s analysis of the magnitude of value, and his analysis is by far the best, will appear from the 3rd and 4th books of this work. As regards value in general, it is the weak point of the classical school of Political Economy that it nowhere expressly and with full consciousness, distinguishes between labour, as it appears in the value of a product, and the same labour, as it appears in the use value of that product.” — Ibid.
  3. “It is one of the chief failings of classical economy that it has never succeeded, by means of its analysis of commodities, and, in particular, of their value, in discovering that form under which value becomes exchange value. Even Adam Smith and Ricardo, the best representatives of the school, treat the form of value as a thing of no importance, as having no connection with the inherent nature of commodities. The reason for this is not solely because their attention is entirely absorbed in the analysis of the magnitude of value. It lies deeper. The value form of the product of labour is not only the most abstract, but is also the most universal form, taken by the product in bourgeois production, and stamps that production as a particular species of social production, and thereby gives it its special historical character. If then we treat this mode of production as one eternally fixed by Nature for every state of society, we necessarily overlook that which is the differentia specifica of the value form, and consequently of the commodity form, and of its further developments, money form, capital form, &c. We consequently find that economists, who are thoroughly agreed as to labour time being the measure of the magnitude of value, have the most strange and contradictory ideas of money, the perfected form of the general equivalent.” — Ibid.
  4. “In order that the commodities may be measured according to the quantity of labour embodied in them—and the measure of the quantity of labour is time—the different kinds of labour contained in the different commodities must be reduced to uniform, simple labour, average labour, ordinary, unskilled labour. Only then can the amount of labour embodied in them be measured according to a common measure, according to time. The labour must be qualitatively equal so that its differences become merely quantitative, merely differences of magnitude. This reduction to simple, average labour is not, however, the only determinant of the quality of this labour to which as a unity the values of the commodities are reduced. That the quantity of labour embodied in a commodity is the quantity socially necessary for its production—the labour-time being thus necessary labour-time—is a definition which concerns only the magnitude of value. But the labour which constitutes the substance of value is not only uniform, simple, average labour; it is the labour of a private individual represented in a definite product. However, the product as value must be the embodiment of social labour and, as such, be directly convertible from one use-value into all others. (The particular use-value in which labour is directly represented is irrelevant so that it can be converted from one form into another.) Thus the labour of individuals has to be directly represented as its opposite, sociallabour; this transformed labour is, as its immediate opposite, abstract, general labour, which is therefore represented in a general equivalent, only by its alienation does individual labour manifest itself as its opposite.” — Theories of Surplus Value, Chapter 20; bold added to emphasize the critical importance of path 2 from my answer, for finding that “determinant of the quality of labor”, i.e. for identifying what kind of labor forms value.
 

 

brainworms

Quora is just reddit but with even more fake scholarly authority.

Any question about social or political questions gets answers from “experts” who gaslight and lie about even obvious facts. No no, fascism isn’t conservative; it’s Hegelian therefore Marxist therefore leftist.

visible-disgust

 

🐸 hellow. My name is Doctor Jordan B Peterson, Doctor of Philosophy, PhD. I am going to tell you what I learned about Coral Marks last night in a sleep-deprived, medicated, and sleepless stupor.

 

The Mormons are not ok.

yeonmi-park

In North Korea you have to work during your wedding ceremony


Unfortunately this one came from a fascist Facebook page called “I,Hypocrite”

 
 

curious-marx

Thinking about how the average person’s reaction to AI is fear because they understand that reducing necessary labor doesn’t actually help capitalist society. It puts the masses out of work and enriches a tiny minority of capitalists. Silver lining is this can be a lever for increasing class consciousness.

Using AI to reduce labor could be awesome if we lived in a Jetsons universe where technological innovation actually benefited everyone and we decided to just work less.

I am sure governments are already using or planning to use AI video for political ends. Like why wouldn’t Israel use it to make a video of conspicuously pro-Hamas people doing something evil. Or someone posts a fake sex tape of Biden/Trump.

 

Thanks, Apple!

 
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