Danterious

We currently have 40872 monthly active users.

700/40872 ~ 1.7% of all monthly active users.

After many hours of talks, it became clear that our overall goal could be achieved outside of Lemmy/ActivityPub.

Right now, we feel that Lemmy and ActivityPub have downsides that are limiting us from achieving that goal.

I have two questions.

1. What are your long-term goals for your platform?

2. What are the downsides to Lemmy/ActivityPub stopping you from reaching those goals?

Also to answer the main question I'd like for it to stay but at the same time, the last time I checked Beehaw had around 700-ish Monthly active users. That means there probably wouldn't be that much of an impact on the general discourse of Lemmy more broadly.

That seems like enough to sustain a pretty big community on a private server even if about half of you left. So if you guys do decide to leave I wish you the best.

Sounds interesting.

Can we not use AI images when questioning his legitimacy? There are plenty of things he has done already that we can point to.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2023/03/fake-ai-generated-images-imagining-donald-trumps-arrest-circulate-on-twitter/

Thanks for this insightful comment. I didn't see it from that perspective before and I agree that using this sort of algorithm makes it harder for community moderation to happen in any capacity.

We should work towards making algorithms that work for us instead of thinking we can rely on just chronological feeds even as we scale. We are sort of doing this by adding scaled and controversial sort but there I think that there should be something more customizable than what we currently have.

Maybe having the defaults but also having some area where it is possible to define a personal sorting algorithm would be nice.

Agreed. Also, does the axolotl mean anything?

Edit: Also since this is the closest post that I've found related to this topic. Is anyone here interested in a community where people make story-based forecasts for the future of something true today but won't be in the future? Here is an example I did recently

Good points.

you should consider moving to Facebook or Threads, maybe?

Not an option

As for the rest yeah those do seem like genuine obstacles. Partially think the reason I liked the algorithm is because it reminded me of the Web of Trust things like Scuttlebutt use to get relevant information to users but with a lower barrier to entry.

Also as I've said elsewhere it doesn't have to be this exact thing but since this is a new platform we have the chance to make algorithms that work for us and are transparent so I wanted to share examples that I thought were worthwhile.

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You’d also turn Lemmy into the strongest echo chamber you could possibly create.

PS. I don't think that's true. Big tech companies that have more advanced algorithms would probably be much better at creating echo chambers.

Is that possible?

If you happen to encounter Boba first then Cofee will be predicted to be disliked based on the overall preferences of people who agree with your Boba preference.

With this specific algorithm, I don't necessarily think that would be the case. It only shows you fewer links from people who like the links that you dislike. It doesn't show you fewer links based on what people who are like you dislike which is what it seems like you are describing.

Also, it doesn't have to be this specific algorithm that we implement but I thought the idea was unique so I thought I'd share it anyway.

It seems to be working well enough for me now so I plan to keep using it and see what it's like.

There’s another important aspect of learning that the simple description leaves out, which is exploration. It will quickly start showing you things you reliably like, but won’t experiment with things it doesn’t know you’d like or not to find out.

Why would this be the case? It shows you stuff that people who like similar stuff that you do like, but people have diverse interests so wouldn't it be likely that the people that like one thing like other things that you hadn't known about and that leads to a form of guided exploration?

Staring a community might be a really cool idea to help with this.

Do you have any tips on how I could get started?

So lots of naysayers, who may even have excellent points, but can’t contribute or help you improve.

I've noticed this quite a bit among people I talk to and honestly just doesn't help move the conversation anywhere meaningful.