this'll be the last comment I make complaining about him.
CaliforniaSpectre
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I don't understand how or why he keeps hating on MLs so much. There was a point where he was saying how the argument liberals make for why they can never do any better is blah blah blah all the fallacious tactics libs use and we know is wrong (this point he's correct on). Then he said "doesn't that sound a bit like Marxist Leninists..." and I almost got whiplash, why would you use a very large historical/international tendency as the benchmark to describe how bad liberals are??
Also he almost seems to acknowledge that bad tankies hiding under the bed are something real (though maybe this was sarcasm that I didn't get).
His point about radical third spaces was certainly correct though, as well as that small groups that do something specific and material are probably better for their immediate community than another overly ambitious workers party with aspirations beyond their ability.
I know not to mind online personalities and certainly this is just another In a long list of reasons to realize that the internet is not a place of any real change.
I see. It's something I'll definitely look into and I think I'll give it a shot in the case that I can actually make it past the onboarding phase. I'll always have family and friends outside the org so that is probably a good boundary to keep myself from getting swept up in any organizational drama.
Do you think it's worth any of our time to try to steer DSA into a better direction? I feel like if they could sever their ties with the Democrats it could become a vehicle for some real agitation and organizing. Again it just takes involvement. It's funny how "don't let perfect be the enemy of good" actually applies to socialist organizing because we are trying to change the world for the better but not to voting for genocidal capital-simp freaks because they are, you know, actually trying to do bad.
Could you elaborate? I had a friend who stanned Makhno and said that them not getting crushed by the USSR would have been "the good timeline for socialism". I was wondering what the controversy was between Makhno and the USSR.
So everyone here is voting de la Cruz, right? 
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My friends and I went to a surprisingly based public high school that taught about the coup against Allende and US imperialism in the Phillippines post-WWII. Also our Spanish teacher was an out-and-out PSL connected Communist, you could basically write "Che cool, US bad" on your tests to get extra credit.
We used to make fun of the Spanish teacher and also argued a few times with one of the humanities teachers about how "biased against the US" our curriculum was and how it was a little over the top. He just said "appreciate it while you have it, because once you graduate you're never going to see this perspective again". Right he was, and now thankfully my core group are all some flavor of communist/anarchist.
But a lot of peripheral friends from those days have gone on to be weird execs at places like UBER or even cops. Really even that curriculum wasn't able to inoculate any but a few of us in the end.