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[-] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

“It’s kind of like the wolves in ‘Game of Thrones,’” they added. “No one really cared that they weren’t in the show a lot.”

Great article

[-] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This show is gonna make people think the movie was good isn't it? Yes I know this is satire

[-] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Ummm actually being problematic is problematic so the show should just be cancelled which is also problematic.

[-] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago
[-] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

hst-gun "Step away from the lathe!" lathe-of-heaven

[-] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

This is what happens when you need to make things "safe for all advertisers". Even if you pay extra for "no ads" the quality of the show suffers because you are still marketing ads for younger audiences.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

But then how did the original show, on a children's television network with ads for kids, have all the things this "adult" show is removing for being "problematic"? I guess everything has atrophied to a ridiculous degree.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This show is going to suck because they keep saying they want it to be a Game of Thrones clone, but I can't wait to hear idiots say it's because there's no white people in it and therefore SJW propaganda. Oh wait, they're already calling it woke despite the fact that they would have called it woke back in the 2000s.

Please gatekeep your hobbies before the normies declare to be the standing authority on it. Geekdom's gentrification is painful to watch.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Is this still about the show not having sexism and streamlining the narrative because it’s live action and they need to reuse locations?

[-] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago

It's about the show looking like it's gonna suck

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I’m sorry your treats are not to your liking

[-] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I view what's happening to Avatar as representative of the general trends of media getting shittier thanks to the lazy short term profit chasing practices of streaming services and media conglomerates.

I don't really think complaining about things getting crappier under late stage capitalism is really that unusual on a leftist community but if you wanna be a smuglord about it, I guess have fun shrug-outta-hecks

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Having lived through gamer gate, I see striking similarities in the language, level of rancor, and “am I the only one seeing this?”

While it’s not misogynistic in the way gamergate was, per se, the irony is not lost on me that one of the chief complaints about Netflix’s avatar is the removal of misogyny.

What do I know? Just yall be careful with your brains because this type of anger and fixation can lead to bad places.

Edit: and there’s a level of personal attacks levied on the showrunner and malding over him “ruining” then you read the actual quote and it’s like “we didn’t think that worked so we didn’t use it”

Like, ok? If you don’t like it, don’t watch it or watch the original?

But to your point about corporate mindlessness. Yes. It’s been going that way for 15 years. I believe it’s because many execs now come from marketing so they don’t know how to inspire and wrangle creators like old school execs did before the corporate buy outs of media

[-] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago

Netflix’s avatar is the removal of misogyny.

This is a really gross misunderstanding of what people are saying Im almost convinced you subconsciously contrived it to perpetuate an "anti-treat bit". The misogyny in question is a teenaged character who grew up in a very conservative society being chauvinistic to women in a rather pedestrian way, a behavior that gets called out and harshly punished within the first season, later leading to him realizing his error and growing into one of the most mature characters in the show. This would be like if they made a version of To Kill a Mocking Bird sans racism and people acted like it was a progressive victory.

and there’s a level of personal attacks levied on the showrunner and malding over him “ruining” then you read the actual quote and it’s like “we didn’t think that worked so we didn’t use it”

You're correct some of that went a bit overboard, but honestly some of the quotes from that guy do suggest he has terrible media literacy. Also I mean he's clearly a pretty successful show biz producer guy so I don't think people on HexBear dissing his writing is going to hurt him in any direct way.

Like, ok? If you don’t like it, don’t watch it or watch the original?

Let people not enjoy things?

On a more serious note, perhaps we're jumping the gun here having all this discourse before it comes out, but if this line really is a rule doesn't it render all media criticism void? Shouldn't everyone just shut up and quietly enjoy what they want? Or is there some value is people expressing their displeasure with the state of art and media? I mean you yourself did in the paragraph directly below this one.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

These are all valid points. I’m just throwing a flag on the play because it isn’t “it” yet but as a trans Jewish person in America I have pretty sensitive hackles and this discourse got them trembling

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