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[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the same government that says using an ad blocker, vpn, custom rom, linux and or encrypted messaging service puts you at higher suspicion of being a terrorist.

I see them enacting these policies now as the large number of pro labor protests fighting the government all over the country on pensions “reform”.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well I'm sure terrorists don't like seeing ads either but I'm not quite sure how they came to the conclusion that using an ad blocker makes you a terrorist.

France is a bit of a strange country though.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're likely right for that assumption. Modern day terrorism I think would require a basic ability to use computers. It doesn't make it likely, but more likely is probably right. I don't expect much organized terrorism that's not going to use some of those tools.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

It bugs me that people will bitch about privacy all day but won't do anything about it. Most people just go Image

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Did anyone actually read the article or did we all just head straight for the comments section after reading the headline?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we team up, only one of us has to read the article and can write the TLDR so we can hit the comments quicker!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

this became reddit faster than i expected!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Read it, didn't give information to dampen the initial outrage. Six months only for a dozen or so cases and not against doctors or journalist doesn't sound that convincing to me. A judge must grant permission also doesn't help imo as the act is still is a major privacy violation to all those who interact with the subject in any way.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago

The French government is pulling a "if you got nothing to hide, don't worry about it".

They say it's gonna be limited to "when appropriate" but history shows whenever this sort of system is implemented, it's scope of "when appropriate" gets broaden pretty quickly.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Did you? Headline sums it nicely to be honest. Only it's not just phones. It opens all same horror show of digital freedoms / privacy the headline implies. Awful development.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I read the article, what's in it that's not all there in the title? The only thing I can think of is that they "claim" it's only going to be used for specific things. But we all know how that goes...

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It was always like that on reddit and will be the same here. Headline -> straight to the comments.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What kind of Orwellian shit is the french government pulling?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At least what the French are doing is in the open. I remember when the ~~US~~ Echelon program was leaked, what is their government up to now?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

The fact that they're doing it out in the open is what really concerns me.

What are they doing in the dark if they're okay with telling on themselves about this?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Look up the Pegasus Project. Governments have already been doing this. Now, they're just doing it more openly.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (13 children)

Phones should be turned off or left at home anyways when protesting. Here are my 10 commandments for engaging in protests:

1: never bring your wallet/ID. If you need to buy things, bring cash

2: either shut off your phone or leave it with your wallet. Recording police violence can be useful, in that case get the aclu app, a burner phone with the app, or an action camera

3: never speak to police under any circumstance

4: you can beat the charge but you can't beat the ride

5: bring water, it's more useful than for just drinking

6: bring hats, sunglasses, etc to avoid being identified by the state if it gets violent

7: wear good running shoes

8: know your rights, both federal and local, and when to use them

9: take out any contact lenses in case police use tear gas

10: stay aware of your surroundings; listen to picket line enforcers/community organizers

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

These are all fine in the US, but in other countries not carrying proof of identity can get you into some trouble, as can refusing to talk to the police. Know your local laws.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Protests in modern times should change. Protests should turn city blocks into crazy multiday parties that are able to evade police and attract more and more people the longer it goes on.

Bring hot tubs and beer. Have bands playing good music. Offer free massages to people who can't protest but are walking home from work and are kind of on the fence until you get your greasy protest hands on them and give em a beer and a little pat pat

If you stop a modern man, hand them a beer with back massage, that man will likely die for you. Good luck to any cops trying to shut you down when you got the 11th floor of the wall street stick market coming to your rally

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wasn't "not making this a thing" a point in The Dark Knight?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

They tried, but "violating everyone's privacy works" was also an inescapable point. Really undercut the message by making it so effective.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah but you guys still have the guillotines in storage or something though, right? Might be time to dust them off.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago (9 children)

If they are allowed to do these other countries will follow suit. This is a dangerous precedent in which no one is safe regardless of boarders.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

During the 2020 protests in Portland, Or the US Marshalls flew a plane equipped cell phone snooping equipment over downtown for hours every day. The equipment acts as a mock cell tower so mobile phone traffic in the area gets routed through their tools before going to an actual tower. It also collects data from wifi in the area, in addition to whatever unknown abilities it has. This was around the time anonymous federal agents were picking up people off the streets in white vans and hiding in bushes shooting pepperballs at people walking by.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They should have tons of audio and video of the insurrection too then right? Or is this only a tool we use on democrats?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

While I agree the right gets more of a pass, the capitol does actually have its own cell network and they did bust people whose phones were connected inside.

The major difference between January 6th and Portland was that on J 6 the police presence was minimal while Portland had paramilitary outfits roaming the streets.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

The NSA did it first

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

WTF Macron? What happened to “Liberté, égalité, fraternité”? This is some “bullshité” if you ask me.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wonder if Apple will make a public statement on this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, that's my thought. It's all well & good to say they can, but how? It's not a capability of the OS, so the only way this could work is some kind of carrier patch (?) or an unpatched bug.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

The Orbánization of the European right continues.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This is scary because it could be exploited very easily by bad actors and is a huge invasion of privacy

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is coming in the wake of protests against pension reform being rammed through and riots over police killing kids.

There's zero reason to believe "being exploited by bad actors" isn't the point.

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