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China’s foreign minister said Saturday that Israel has gone too far in responding to last week’s invasion by Hamas, China’s official news agency reported.

Speaking to Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Israel’s actions have extended beyond self-defense.

According to Xinhua, China has an interest in helping resolve the conflict and the underlying issues involving the Palestinian population.

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[–] [email protected] 193 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He's not wrong. But it's worth remembering that when China faced a far smaller provocation from their own restive Muslims, in Xinjiang, they responded by locking up a large fraction of the population in vast reeducation camps...

[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not saying that's right, but at least they didn't bomb the camps...

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (167 children)

I think if they felt the need to they would have. China and Israel's government both place about the same value on the lives of people who get in their way, China is just a lot more self conscious about its international image.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They raped and tortured them form what I understand.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There's also the issue of the potential mass organ harvesting from people in China's "Reeducation Camps"

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_harvesting_from_Falun_Gong_practitioners_in_China

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 1 year ago (1 children)

maybe the chinese can give them some tips, I heard they're pretty experienced in handling minorities...

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"you just build a giant factory around them and start exporting"

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

And some camps for them to concen....to focus and recreate.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 1 year ago (2 children)

wow, says by the nation who abuses Filipino fishermen, claiming they own the entire West Philippine Sea

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Projection gaming. Classic China lmao

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[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Speaking to Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister Faisal bin Farhan Al Saud, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said Israel’s actions have extended beyond self-defense.

Heartbreaking: The Worst Person You Know Just Made A Great Point

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

So many Palestinians dead....do you understand how much free labour you could've gotten out of them?

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Because the Chinese government treats Muslims so well, right?

I wonder what they would do if the Uyghurs revolted... oh wait, we do know, we have precedent, just look how they treated their students.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

The Chinese are more frugal in their methods of genocide, but the disregard for human life is about the same.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No but they are forced into re-education and labor camps and have their organs harvested among other things

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2021/06/china-un-human-rights-experts-alarmed-organ-harvesting-allegations

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

Nope, just got kidnapped and their organs stolen.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm very inclined to ignore West Taiwan's position on matters of ethics and morality.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Genocidal China has problem with more genocide? Whut?

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 1 year ago

Lol wtf is this, the onion?

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I thought the CCP hated Muslims too.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Here's an idea? Let the Chinese government administer Gaza! They have experience reeducting Muslims right? Then all Gazaouis muslims will become Jewish, Christian, atheist, you name it! Possibilities are endless.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

So Palestine is now supported by russia, Syria, Iran, China, all the greatest and most fair countries in the world.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (21 children)

At the “start” of this, I didn’t really have an opinion. But that’s mostly due to lack of knowledge and the complexity of the issue.

I was initially siding with Israel as they were hit first, but their response has made me rethink things.

I’m still really undecided and am unqualified to make an opinion anyway.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

"As they were hit first."

Whooboy. You have to go far, far, far back in history, buddy.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

It's OK not too have a side. Israel and Palestine have been going at it for so long and the history is so complex that there is literally blame on both sides.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

The graphs here go to 2008 and the situation has been going on for decades before that

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago

The fact that you consider yourself unqualified to make an opinion probably makes you more qualified to do so than 95% of the idiots out there whose opinions are already firmly established.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do you feel the need to take a side

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It's really complicated. If you trace back why people did what they did, including motivations, you'll end up centuries back. I stopped in the Russian revolutionary time period last time I tried.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

"Before the Hamas incursion and subsequent Israeli military response, it was believed that Israel and Saudi Arabia, driven by a common animus toward Iran, were working toward a normalization of relations, a development that could have shifted the dynamic in the Middle East."

Who wants the dynamic in the Middle East to remain unchanged?

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