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[–] [email protected] 100 points 1 year ago (8 children)

I'm in the camp that think cars headlights should basically work like motorcycle headlights. If the car is running, the lights are on. There's basically no reason to have them off in general use, it only makes you more visible, even in nice weather.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Don’t all new cars have daytime running lights? I thought that was now standard. Hell, I thought it was required.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most newer ones have the “auto” feature, which typically involves a daytime light of some kind). Some people just turn it off.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But to the commenter’s point, why not just have them on all the time no matter what? Is there a disadvantage?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Nope. The issue is many drivers don't understand car electronics and that the alternator is constantly generating power as the car goes along. They turn it off thinking it will save battery life.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Canada requires it, US does not.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

The headlights, tail lights are a different story though. My car def can have the tail lights off at night. That's not right at all

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

There are a lot of cars where the daytime running lights are just little outer Halos and not actual headlights. I fucking hate these because people think their headlights are on and don't realize that the back of their car is completely black at night because the back lights are not on only the front daytime running.

I don't know what the fuck manufacturers were thinking with that, just fucking turn the lights on if the car is in Drive simple as that

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My dad's 2018 Rav doesn't and I was shocked.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

That's weird because I have a base model 2018 Rav and it definitely does.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That’s a requirement for cars sold in Canada, though I still see cars with their lights off frequently.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Some countries have mandatory daytime running light (like Canada). I had an inspection on a 25+ years old car and had to Mumbo-Jumbo some relays in there to have my fog lights turn on when the car's running but back to manual if my headlights were on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I drive a school bus and we're required by law to have our headlights and running/clearance/identification lamps on at all times. So why in the fuck do buses even have a switch for that shit that we have to remember to flick on every time we start the bus?

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Put your god damn phone down and stop taking pictures with it when you're behind the wheel of a semi when it’s raining.

Sorry. Had to be said. Drive safe friend.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Totally. I don't know if semis are as susceptible to hydroplaning as cars, but I had an awful hydroplaning incident 15 years ago that still scares me. Regained control after what felt like hours of fishtailing.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Folks need to realize that having headlights on in the rain isn’t meant to help you see, but to help others see you.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This goes for signals too. Don't turn it on when you're already turning

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is there ever a reason to not have them on?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Old cars had old-school bulbs and no sensors, so the driver, not wanting to waste bulb lifespan, was responsible for.using them when they needed them.

Modern cars with LEDs don't have the usage problem, but some cheaper models don't have sensors.

Anyway a modern car has no reason not to be have them on, unless you were parking or something and didn't want to blind people seated nearby, but that's a very specific edge case.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As a Canadian, we have auto daytime running lights on all the time but then people think they don't need to turn the actual headlights on which are brighter and turn the rear taillights on so they are still invisible from behind.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For the life of me, I can't figure out the thought process behind DRLs.

Let's create a separate set of headlights that are always on for safety and visibility... They won't be quite as bright as actual headlights, but they are bright enough that you might think you have your headlights on. Oh, and no tail lights for some reason!

Even my 2013 with headlights that turn off automatically when they are in the ON and the car is shut off, still insists I'm supposed to use the AUTO mode which only activates in low light.

Nothing about about it makes any logical or safety sense. There is zero reason whatsoever that the standard for 30 years hasn't been for all standard lights to be on whenever the engine is running, with the specific option to turn them off if desired.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Headlights are designed to illuminate the road in front of you. DRLs are designed to be seen by others.

Headlights deliberately avoid sending light up or sideways towards the eyes of other drivers, so they often aren't very visible during the day. DRLs send light in all directions and are bright points or strips of light, so they stand out more without blinding other drivers.

If your DRLs aren't very good, that's a different problem. Older ones with incandescent bulbs weren't. They do have a purpose that headlights aren't great at, though.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

"No, I can see just fine, it doesn't matter thay my car is the color of a wet road, I don't need headlights".

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Why don't auto manufactures legally have to make them linked to turning on wiper blades? I've never understood this?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (7 children)

why don't your politicians pass a law that makes them mandatory to be turned on at all times?

it has been like that in the EU for fuck knows how long.

whether it's raining, snowing or sun shining, you turn on your lights.

newer cars (read almost 10 years old by now) have special front leds that are always on as that meets regulation.

personally I have an almost 10 year old car and it automatically switched between he daylight running lights and the normal headlights

older cars simply have to have their headlights turned on all the time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I've always wondered this. Why are the on just when it's raining? Why not all the time? What is the justification for operating a car on the road without lights on?

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago

Daytime running lights are mandatory in Canada, unfortunately your politicians are unable to pass useful legislation if it can't be played for votes

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Was this picture taken as the driver? While driving? ...what appears to be a school bus?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Person being unsafe with camera use while driving complains about others being unsafe while driving.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Passenger seats are a thing

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s my constitutional right to do whatever I like. -Republican coal rollers.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But my lights are on auto!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It's really dumb that automatic windshield wipers dont also turn on the automatic headlights.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

On many cars, they do.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

It's your responsibility, not the car.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just turn them on when your car is on, no matter the weather or time.

How we haven't made that an automatic feature for all cars boggles me.

Shit, I'll compromise, only when it's in reverse or drive, the lights should be on.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Became a feature in Canada in 2021! Mandatory auto headlights became the minimum required by law.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don't use your phone to take pictures while driving.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not sure if it's your truck or not but rain x can go a long way for your visibility. Also agree with headlights being on.

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