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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
 

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So far, Americans using RedNote have said they don't care if China has access to their data. Viral videos on TikTok in recent days have shown Americans jokingly saying they will miss their personal "Chinese spy," while others say they are purposefully giving RedNote access to their data in a show of protest against the wishes of the U.S. government.

"This also highlights the fact that people are thirsty for platforms that aren't controlled by the same few oligarchs," Quintin said. "People will happily jump to another platform even if it presents new, unknown risks."

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What should we expect from people who voted in a rich, old, white guy as their savior.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"well hey you can trust a rich guy who becomes a politician, but not a politician who becomes rich!" said some poor old white lady who probably shouldn't trust either

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 1 day ago (7 children)

I know we are all on here because we dislike the kind of algorithms that tik tok, Instagram, and Facebook have, but that is exactly the thing my wife was looking for. When I had her download pixelfed and loops she was like ' I have to search out content and manually follow people like I did with Facebook back in the day?' and she uninstalled.

Algorithms can be addictive and evil, but for some people that's what they're looking for.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (11 children)

"I'm protesting American oligarchs and the surveillance state by willingly giving my personal data to Chinese oligarchs and the surveillance state. Lol, get rekt. I am very smart."

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Somewhere deep in the CCP...

Senior Operative: "What intelligence have we gleaned from the Americans so far?"

Junior Operative: "I'm beginning to think this well is dry."

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can't put videos on pixelfed, right? That unfortunately means it's not a competitive platform. Video is what people seem to want.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can. Your instance just needs to up the max size or turn it on.

Example from someone who only has one video as the sample content. https://pixelfed.social/p/Sarahschannel/785335877987047968

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Lemmy is great but it does not hit the spot for a large-scale consumer social network because that's just not the philosophy (It also lacks the unified identity because of its greatest feature: federation)

People are not searching for an aggregator of small forums of friendly tech people, they want to be part of the next big thing.

If you work on apps as a front-end, you probably understand that Lemmy requires too much hassle to get started with UX-wise.

It's engineered for a niche, and it's perfect to me but obscure for the majority of people who were trained to use the same UX for years and years.

No algorithm, no feeling of fame, rarely drama, content takes some time to be updated. Those are features to me but hindrance for large-scale adoption I believe.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Reddit got quite successfull over the years.

I think the potential audience for lemmy is huge, just that people havent gotten the same marketing hype/trend like you pointed out.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Reddit userbase absolutely skyrocketed when Obama (then president) did an AMA. The site was never quite the same after that

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Fediverse fanboys when they realise that their obscure and socially complex software isn't know by many people specially outside of the tech bubble, and that it's not the same experiences that they will get with their known platforms:

edited Gru with an uncanny smile

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

As someone who isn’t tech savvy I only joined the fediverse when I had no other choice when Apollo shutdown (except of course going back to Reddit)

Heck when I heard talks of lemmy hearing the word servers was enough to spook me out of joining until last minute

I had a point in here somewhere but I’m so tired i lost it so feel free use your imagination

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

it seems daunting to join Lemmy, and without the catalyst forcing you to you never would have joined, right? and that's probably going to be the default exp for most normies?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have long since given up on Normies ever coming to the Indie Web, federated or otherwise

Ever since the big Xwitter exodus, when people went to BlueSky when Mastodon was right there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Xitter* (x pronounced sh style)

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[–] [email protected] 135 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Lemmy doesn't have the censorship and speech-control from those platforms, but it pretty much distributes your data widely to anybody that asks for it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

It's never really been about data collection. It's about what service feeds users. The algorithm can be tweaked to provide slant towards particular ideals. It can sway elections. Some would rightly say that's already done hard by western social apps. Yeah, and that's wrong too. So they blame other countries for a smoke screen.

[–] [email protected] 144 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Hear me out: if you post stuff publicly, it is out there. The issue is data that shouldn’t be public getting public

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 days ago

This is it. A strong public domain benefits everyone. It is why open source software works.

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 days ago (18 children)

I used to think that the perceived complexity of the fediverse was creating a hurdle for more adoption.

Now all these fucking people are learning Chinese to better use RedNote.

Apparently convenience isn't actually a barrier? I'm baffled why so many people are flocking to anything other than the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

id rather learn Mandarin than Linux

[–] [email protected] 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I think it's probably marketing more than convenience

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

FWIW Pixelfed's been growing like crazy the last couple days

Source: https://pixelfed.fediverse.observer/dailystats

edit: loops has a much smaller userbase but has also gained active users in the last couple days: https://loops.fediverse.observer/dailystats

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

others say they are purposefully giving RedNote access to their data in a show of protest against the wishes of the U.S. government.

really?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

" . . . giving Rednote access to their data as a show of protest . . ."

That's a special kind of stupid.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They want a platform that isn’t controlled by oligarchs yet they go to a platform that is controlled by the CCP, interesting

[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean the CCP isn't an oligarchy; it's an old school dictatorship.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You have been site-banned from .ml

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 days ago

Apparently some Israeli-Americans went on Red Note to specifically asked Chinese people what they thought of Israel, and users basically said they were "Devil's on this earth for killing babies" which like...damn. Even through the Great Firewall they aren't beating the allegations.

So I'm sure the Israeli lobby will get that banned next, we shouldn't worry.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

People were sarcastically making the comment about sharing their data with the Chinese government. AFAIK there has been zero evidence that this had been happening in the first place.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

It's definitely happening, but it's not why tiktok was banned. The government doesn't care who gets your data.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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