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I mean have they seen how good Ice Cubes and Mlem look? How can they choose the default Twitter and Reddit apps over those masterpieces.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 minutes ago (1 children)

This is now the community's Top All Time post.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 minutes ago

It beat the simpsons bar one!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Honestly, I would use Lemmy more except that some posts are just people being overly negative or strangely political in the comments. There are good communities without this don’t get me wrong but it can get old

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I've found a massive reduction after blocking only a handful of users. It seems there are fewer of them than it first appears.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 22 hours ago

I might have to do that then, thanks! Might make my experience a bit better.

Also something I didn’t think about, there are enough users on Reddit to let the garbage comments sink to the bottom and not be seen. Here, you see them all

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah a lot of people on here have sticks up their butts hehe

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Feel free to chime in on this thread, it's a proposal to solve this exact issue: https://lemmy.world/post/24268267

[–] [email protected] 118 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I mean have they seen how good Ice Cubes and Mlem look? How can they choose the default Twitter and Reddit apps over those masterpieces.

No, they haven't. 99% of people have never heard of the fediverse or any app within it.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 3 days ago (3 children)

People here are so out of touch here; it's super interesting

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (6 children)

In a way, it's a good sign. The threadiverse is tight-knit and comprehensive enough to become people's primary social site. I've never seen any other reddit alternative get to this point.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It became my primary. Had never heard/understood federated-internet anything before lemmy. And it's been a really good time here

Reddit is now just a Quora for me, when I'm using a search engine. I don't scroll Instagram, but just look at what (3) people send me. Facebook is for rare use-cases, so I haven't deleted my account. YouTube I watch, rarely scroll, and don't interact. And I think that's about it currently

Lemmy has it's own issues/flavor for sure... but I dig it. I learned my first forum basics from Something Awful, and there's a certain vibe here that reminds me of that. The fediverse (threadiverse? I haven't heard that term) feels like an internet community center or something

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

I told everyone in my family, and it was one ear and out the other.

My sister told me the other day, "I didn't know I could add reddit it to my Google search and get better results." All I could think is, "you figured that out right when everything went to shit, damn."

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

If all the average users were here, it would be just as awful as Reddit became when it hit mainstream acceptance level.

Remember that subreddits there were quality when small but sort of became too large to have character after a certain threshold, I seem to recall 300k subscribers and up being about where that delineation was.

Lemmy could stand to be more popular, but not too popular or it would attract the bottom feeders that make stupid one liner comments and upvote wrong answers.

Enjoy the smaller lemmy while it lasts

Edited for clarity, gotta drop the reddit shorthand

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

"The problem isn't corporate, the problem is audience size."

Shut the fuck up about this.

Lemmy isn't anything right now. No impact or relevance, no practical effect in terms of community and influence. It's just small conversations and mild entertainment.

If you enjoy that, go ahead. But don't campaign to hold the whole fediverse project back.

Just get together in a niche instance with your small town types and defederate if the project successfully becomes a full fledged alternative. The Internet needs a successful full scale alternative to corporate social media to have a chance at recovery from enshittification.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

We live in a time where you could have a really good alternative FOSS Platforms with all the cool bells & whistles

But they'll never join it because, "It ain't Youtube" or "muh favorite creator is not there" or that there's no large userbase

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, if I weren't politically as far left as I am, lemmy would have scared me off a long time ago.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

And you need to be a particular kind of weird person to sift all the random posts. The average user actually wants an algorithm.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (5 children)

You're talking about people that are content with "the internet" being google, facebook, instagram, snap, tiktok, youtube and twitter, nothing more.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I guess most people don’t want to wade through dozens of “eat the rich” posts every time thay open their favorite social media platform.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nah, people get overwhelmed by choosing a server instance.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Weird. That’s like my main kink.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Or any political content at all. Most people just want to look at funny cats or memes.

Other people want absurd humor without the racist degeneracy of other outlets.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

In other words: Advertising works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I have a feeling that spez was an ordinary man when he started reddit. Then he became an asshat, of course.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I can't even blame spez for becoming that asshat. Trying to ride herd on something as large, diverse, and popular as reddit has become, requires someone who is willing to be an asshat.

If you ever find yourself in charge a group of diverse people remember that you will never satisfy everyone. And a lot of the time the best you can hope for is to piss off everyone equally.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you think you can be benevolent and also not try to satisfy everyone

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can be benevolent, but you can't satisfy everyone. Those are two different things. I can care about people, but I can't feed every starving person. I can work to rescue as many as I can, but I cannot save everyone.

And the larger the group you are trying to lead, the less likely it is that you can satisfy the needs of all of them. And sometimes, you might even need to be cruel in the moment to be kind over the long run to do the most good.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

But you dont have to actively try to make it worse

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wish that lemmy had the population to sustain more niche communities.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Yeah, a lot of people have quit Twitter over Musk being a huge douche and migrated to... Blusky. And they think they've done something really great. It's sad.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To be fair, Twitter is so bad now that Bsky is an improvement.

And Bsky has to appear trustful as they need to attract users.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago (5 children)

That's how they all begin.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago

Mastodon is not a twitter clone.

Bluesky is a twitter clone, without musk. That's all these people want. They've never heard about the fediverse. They're not protesting corporate centralism.

They just don't like twitter being a right wing agenda. They want a twitter experience circa before musk bought it, simply because it was left wing before.

That's bluesky. That's not mastodon.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Bluesky is...fine. Currently, it operates the way that I wish Twitter did. It lets you curate your feed, it shows the feed in chronological order, and finally and most importantly it has a critical mass of users so there is actual content there, rather than every 5th post complaining about how everyone is on another platform or not using Linux.

Really, the only issue I have with it is that it is owned by a corporation. But like Twitter and Reddit, I am willing to abandon it for something else when it gets shittier.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That coke-rush is just temporary and afterwards, leaves you feeling like this:

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Lemmy doesn't have much to offer compared to the "billionaire run" social media.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This is the real answer. I forget the exact numbers, but the vast majority of people on reddit are just lurkers. When you have an enormous user base, that still translates to lots of content to consume. Lemmy has way less content and very small communities (if any) for most niches.

Of course you can point to bots on reddit inflating those numbers and that Lemmy has more meaningful interaction, but that's not what most are looking for that are on reddit.

Also, as others mentioned, there's no negative engagement algorithm drivers on mastodon like there is on Twitter. Fact is, a lot of people just like to be angry and combative.

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