TNG s5e2 "Darmok"
Could someone wiser than me translate?
this post was submitted on 04 Jan 2025
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Panel 1: Reference to the TV show Letterkenny ("Let's get on with it")
Panel 2: Reference to old TV ads for Tombstone Pizza ("What do you want on your Tombstone" i.e. "Any last requests?")
Panel 3: Reference to Futurama episode: "Brannigan, Begin Again" ("Yes. Tell my wife how I feel about her.")
Panel 4: Reference to the movie, The Princess Bride ("Yes of course, I'll do that.")
Panel 5: Reference to the movie, Blade Runner ("Time to die...")
Panel 6: Meta reference, sticking with the referential nature of the dialog instead of actually rolling credits.
Thanks for the reference breakdown.
Very welcome! With my brain, it's about the only thing I'm good for 😬
Same wavelength, dude.
Who is that, ajdnwhy do they look like a mediaeval fantasy character sitting on a modern couch?
My response from another:
[Freja] from God of War, yes. In place of Liz Lemon in 30 Rock.
Edit: There's a wonderful treasure trove of meme based gifs from the game studio itself.
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Excellent. What exactly is six fingers?
Princess Bride character.
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- Picard sees the grim situation for what it is and forges ahead
- He asks Dathon if he has any last words/message to get across
- Dathon wants to send a farewell to his wife
- Picard makes a promise to see the message through
- Dathon exclaims that he is dying
- Executive Producer Gene Roddenberry
One of the six fingered man’s promises was a lie
Sure, but the one to Humperdinck was intended.
Didn't the message have something to do with Inigo Montoya, and something about his father?
I just realized the language spoken in Darmok is literally speaking in meme.
That's the whole crux of the episode, though. 😅😶🌫️
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The thing that's always bothered me about that metaphoric language is that to learn it you would need to be told the stories the metaphors refer to, which means there would have to be a more basic language for telling the actual stories. Then the metaphors would make sense. Same as understanding "gaslight" or "dog whistle" etc.
There was a great thread on Daystrom on Reddit about this. The theory is they have 3 languages. Basically, the bare function words taught to children and in which the stories are told. The main language of metaphors with which we are familiar. And a language of technical jargon. Until they have learnt the stories, language A can be used as a general purpose language for children, but it would be regarded as baby talk by adults except when used for its functional purpose in telling metaphors. The jargon would be necessary even at higher levels.
Holy crap! Except for the technical language this is the exact theory I came up with.
For amusement here's my theory of why TNG Klingons don't look like TOS Klingons: The Klingons first acquired warp drive from some unfortunate alien scientists who landed on their planet. The Klingons killed them and copied their technology, immediately conquering and subjugating every nearby system they could find. Like the ancient Romans, they expanded their empire beyond their ability to govern it. Logistics problems and power struggles on the home planet left many troops stranded on frontier planets, where they eventually settled down and went native. By the time the central government got its shit together and reasserted itself, generations of interbreeding had created Klingons who hardly looked Klingon anymore. Being on the fringes of the Empire, these were the Klingons Kirk's generation interacted with, who are seen in TOS. After years of infighting over the status of the "halfbreeds", the matter was finally settled. Certain distinguished warriors were allowed to undergo modification to look more "normal" - as we see Kang return in TNG. To a racially proud civilization this entire affair is a source of tremendous embarrassment - so as Worf said in the DS9 tribble episode, "We do not speak of it."
I think this theory got trashed by canon at some point, but back in the 90s everybody I told it to thought it was a totally reasonable explanation.
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Berman producing a genuinely good episode, fans left with mixed feelings.
We'll just go ahead and give credit to the writers Philip LaZebnik and Joe Menosky in this case.
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I'm not an expert on these old stories, but I'm pretty sure they're referencing a movie from Earth's past at the end there. I've had the computer reconstruct it.
The computer has regenerated another scene from this famous Earth 20th Century Story Film.
Am I supposed to wait for you to catch up, or...?
I Ain't done! MORE HUMAN THAN HUWMAN! MORE HUMAN THAN HEWMAN! kick ass slide guitar power chords
Oh, and there's also this quick clip:
I know this one's mean, but...
John Wick, when his dog was killed.
The Roy Batty line is brilliant
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