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Ye Power Trippin' Bastards

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This is a community in the spirit of "Am I The Asshole" where people can post their own bans from lemmy or reddit or whatever and get some feedback from others whether the ban was justified or not.

Sometimes one just wants to be able to challenge the arguments some mod made and this could be the place for that.

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I said something along the lines of:

"Wow, I haven't had a reason to smile ear to ear in a while."

Along with

"Nah, the more dead ~~corpos~~ dragons, the better."

In response to some liberal going off about how violence is never the solution, not mentioning how this murdered dipshit has personally overseen a system that perpetuates harm, suffering and death (violence) in the name of profit.

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Good ole' civility clause.

Whats the paradox of tolerance?

.world mods have never heard of it I guess.

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[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

TOS you say?

So glad i went to Divide by Zero

I left after World said they would federate with threads.

[–] laverabe@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

I looked at the logs myself, and it absolutely was power tripping. Jury nullification discussion isn't even illegal for fucks sake.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 2 weeks ago

I'm just here to point out that everyone's going to use the downvote button as a "disagree" button and the upvote as "agree," and there's nothing anyone can do to stop us. You can't hold back the tide.

Heh, I got a good chuckle at that comment removal. So glad I moved from there to db0.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah, .world is full of slightly right of center normies and pussies.

[–] viking@infosec.pub -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah, the average Lemming is just some leftist activist, so you don't really get what fully centrist / liberal actually means.

I fucking wish.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right of centre by Lemmy standards, they're still pretty left compared to the real world.

[–] curled@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

this depends on what part of the world is real to you

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 week ago (9 children)

PTB, comments celebrating a person who's horrible are not encouraging violence. This is clearly an attempt from the mods to push their agenda. Their replies here in this thread support this theory.

for me i consider human life sacred and despite the mistakes of this person only God may judge us.

I think this comment snippet speaks for itself honestly.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So many things wrong with that statement, including the falsehood that only God can judge. We do have courts, including the court of public opinion.

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[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The bans seem to be lifted.

[–] little_cow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

yes i only banned for 24 hours so that more information could be found additionally there were directions that people encouraging, cheering, making joke of, discussing payment, or of jury nullification are against the terms of service for lemmy.world. as of now there is new information regarding this section of the terms of service which will be announced and explained by the admins. i am sorry to those that feel i was excessive we have discuss this among the moderators and will use the lock power to reduce the moderator workflow. for me i consider human life sacred and despite the mistakes of this person only God may judge us. i recognize my bias in this and will work to be more restrained going forward.

[–] Zess@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You should stop being a mod. For so many reasons.

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[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jury nullification is a legal right any jurist in the US has, which is why liberals hate it.

[–] little_cow@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

i am not from the united states and there are countries with laws differant from the united states I was asked to remove these things for this reason

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So let me get you to repeat that so I know you didn’t misspeak. The admins of Lemmy.world instructed you to remove posts educating people about their rights in the country they live in? Can you tag them so we can discuss those admins here?

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The policy is happening at the lemmy.world level, not the individual mod level.

It's right there in the Terms of Service (which nobody actually ever reads):

https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/

"1. Attacks on users or groups 

Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack other people or groups of people. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't give you the right to harass them. Discuss ideas and be critical of principles. Show the respect you desire to receive.

We do not tolerate threats of and calls for violence in any form against any living creature."

We faced the same problem in the Politics community when Henry Kissinger died.

[–] BlitzoTheOisSilent@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, challenge accepted: every instance I come across from .world that has any indication of violence against anything living, well, I'll be reporting that, and I expect the mods to follow up on it quickly.

I'll start with the gardening instances, since plants do feel pain, and thus any pruning/harvesting/etc is an act of violence, and I'm surprised the .world mods haven't shut down such a violent instance.

Wait, they need to be banned outright, actually, because in order to garden, users are going to have to suggest that people dig into the dirt, and that's a pretty blatant call of violence against all organisms, including those at the microscopic level.

Better delete the woodworking instance too, since the only way to work with wood is to kill a tree and dismember its body, often skinning it immediately after it's been sawed off at the knees, juuuuuuust fresh enough to feel all the pain but not enough to fight back.

What an absolute joke.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Many of us .world mods had nothing to do with these deletions and bannings and I would caution you against this sort of flag abuse in the communities I moderate. It looks like you have already started.

If you have an issue with what happened with the mods in c/news, don't take it out on the rest of us.

We hardly ever even delete comments in Ten Forward, let alone ban people.

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[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Can't comment on bans/deservedness. Lemmy is infested with mods/agents/bots that are pro empire/CIA/military paid protectors of disinformation and said empire.

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A 24 hour temp ban for celebrating violence is actually pretty reserved. Certainly not power tripping.

[–] Vent@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Denying millions of legitimate claims that directly leads to many people being physically harmed or dying is violence on a large scale. So is lobying the government to keep healthcare in shambles for hundreds of millions of people.

It's a less visible, less gorey form of violence than a gun, but violence that begets mass suffering and death nonetheless.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you define that as violence then everything is violence and nothing is legitimate. Overly broad definitions meant to paralyze society are a form of violence because people will die if we take no action, but we can't take action because Vent defined that as violence.

[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All I'm getting from this is that you're fine with people needlessly dying as long as the death wasn't a direct result of violence.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Of course not. But more death isn't the answer. Because we've seen that route and it doesn't end the cycle. Check out France and Russia. They didn't solve anything with their incredibly violent reprisals against their ruling classes. The only way to end this cycle is to end the existence of a wealthy elite. Which you can do by taking their money away.

[–] Vent@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

What about WWII? The US Revolution? The US civil war? The Haitian Revolution? Is France really worse off now? Ukraine?

Violence / death is very rarely the answer to anything, but it's a cold hard fact that sometimes it is, especially when you start bringing war and revolutions into it, lmao.

The only way to end this cycle is to end the existence of a wealthy elite. Which you can do by taking their money away.

"Hand over your money, please!"

To be clear, I'm not advocating for killing anyone in the streets, and vigilante justice like this is not something I'd like to see, but the blanket response of "violence bad" is plain wrong.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The US Revolution wasn't anything like the French and Russian ones. Haiti was but it wasn't Haitians that screwed them over afterwards, it was the US. So maybe they could have been the one time where an orgy of violence worked?

To be clear, I’m not advocating for killing anyone in the streets, and vigilante justice like this is not something I’d like to see, but the blanket response of “violence bad” is plain wrong.

Except you're here defending exactly that.

[–] Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago

Based on your arguments here you're basically saying that celebrating (or maybe even even simply not condemning?) this act of violence means that you must tacitly endorse this type of violence, correct? That's a very long bow to draw.

I think most people, myself included, would much prefer a non-violent way to prevent capitalists from profiting directly from the physical and financial misery of sick and dying people. Like maybe some stronger laws, better regulation and enforcement, and active prosecution of non-compliant companies and their bosses, for a start, right? But in the seeming absence of that possibility, why not let folks have their schadenfreude moment in peace?

[–] Eternal192@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

So much for "freedom of speech", unless you're rich or a CEO i guess...

[–] RaoulDook@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The First Amendment right to freedom of speech in the USA applies to the relationship between citizens and the government's authority. Lemmy servers are not the US government, and Lemmy users must abide by the Terms of Service on the Lemmy servers they use.

It's that simple.

You still have the freedom to create your own server and host whatever content you want on there. Lemmy is open source I believe so you can go right ahead and federate your own free speech.

Side note, I'm not saying this to defend health insurance crooks. I'm currently dealing with several insurance problems with denied coverage myself. We can all see the motive of that hooded man clearly.

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lemmy users must abide by the Terms of Service on the Lemmy servers they use.

And the problem currently under discussion is that OP did not break any of the ToS, but was banned anyway for saying something the admins disagreed with.

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[–] hono4kami@pawb.social 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Holy fuck what's wrong with you peole. Two wrongs doesn't make it right

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I want to say that this is a case where it's not clearly either a PTB or a YDI situation. The mods seem to be enforcing their comm/instance rules, albeit their rules in this instance seem over the top.

I wonder what kind of acronym would fit this description. If anyone has any ideas, let me know.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Can we please not turn this place into acronym soup like Reddit was in places?

You don't even save that much time.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Power tripping bastard

You did it yourself

You save quite some time

[–] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That time being spent searching through the comments trying to decipher the acronyms.

[–] _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 1 week ago

Well, if you’re searching comments instead of reading the sidebar that’s always available, then you deserve to spend hours doing it.

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Rottcodd@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Whats the paradox of tolerance?

It's a fucking paradox.

It honestly amazes me that damned near everyone seems to miss that part, even though it's in the fucking name.

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bans on any Lemmy instance are stupid because nobody gives a fuck about this place. This is just 4Chan for milquetoast nerds

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