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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 month ago (2 children)

If Netanyahu came to the US, Biden would give him another hand job.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago

In front of congress, while they have a standing ovation.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

i'm sure that biden would appreciate the rest; because his lips and his nose must be exhausted from all the intense workouts in the last year or so.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Don't fucking announce it!! Invite him for some honor then bag the fucker!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Ah yes, the red wedding of WW3

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Yeah, that would probably fall under perfidy, which is a war crime. Although Netanyahu is a war criminal, we probably shouldn't stoop to his level. Then again, Canada isn't at war with Israel, so maybe it isn't quite the same.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yo, learned a new word today, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Does it count as a war crime if Canada and Israel are not in war with each other's?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Declaring a state of war is not necessary for the laws of war to apply.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

I'm wondering the same thing. I saw another article stating that Hungary has invited Netanyahu and will not enforce the ICC's ruling. However, Hungary is a member of INTERPOL. Maybe INTERPOL can perform the arrest without having to worry about justifying inviting a head of state just to arrest him... 🤔

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

This is basically an invitation not to come. This is probably the smartest play, geopolitically speaking.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Not very honorable

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago

Hey Bibi, you're invited to a special Canadian Christmas Party in the slammer!

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago

Canada: Hold me back bro, I’ll do it bro

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I honestly don't think we would, our politicians love talk and hate action. I also can't think of a reason why he'd visit Canada, which is probably what they're relying on.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

The real gangsta move would be inviting him so he shows up then arresting him...

But it's hard to criticize Canada when both of my country's political options can't seem to ever get Bibi's dick out of their mouths.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Something I just realized...

All nations saying this are infact just asking him to stay away, while appearing to be taking a stance for Palestine.

Just think about what would actually happen if they tried, his bodyguards would not let it happen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

They would. Anyone seriously attempting it in their country would have already accept the possibility of all out war with Israel.

Countries like Canada and those in western Europe have stronger military alliances than Israel. They also have a better network of procuring arms, blocking and sanctioning (long term) and are likely to win in a total war senario. Israel’s main backer (USA), would be compelled by NATO to support the NATO members over Israel. Without the US arms, intelligence and presence Israel would be invaded by its neighbours (this doesn’t justify Israel’s current actions, I believe it was entirely possible for Israel to make an acceptable peace with their neighbours - they choose not to and use the consequences of their actions to justify their actions ).

When your doing something like arresting a genocidial head of state, you don’t send a couple of police officers. You send multiple armoured vehicles, hundreds of soldiers and some air support. His security will surrender, aid in his arrest or be shot. The first two are more likely. Israel would rather contest this legally and politically than with might. If the body guards start resisting in anyway then their legal and political case falls apart. It’s all out war of which they will eventually lose and be overrun by their neighbours. Unless NATO invades Israel and decides to provide security for several years.