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[–] [email protected] 87 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Petty theft and similar crimes are almost always borne out of desperation. When you can't feed your family, have zero job prospects, or feel like the world won't allow you more than the barest subsistence, people turn to crime.

Vast majority of people aren't going to start mugging strangers when they are doing OK just because they want more. Personal risk of harm is just too great. Those types of thieves generally perpetrate white-collar and financial crimes.

Bottom left yellow person would be swayed if his initial motives were real. But the last motive shows yellow person is actually desperate, so while increasing guilt, is unlikely to fix the core issue and sway them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

There are also people who are desperate because they're addicted to drugs, and safety net programs aren't gonna do much about that. Not really a counterargument, just a sidebar.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I would always see and hear about poor people having their homes broken into and things stolen and I was always like "Why don't you rob someone who's rich?"

Because rich people have better security. Which makes it harder. 😮‍💨

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago

Working as intended.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago

The rich probably live farther away than you do too. So the thief would have to make an investment in additional time as well as resources for travel. If you're a thief of opportunity, you likely don't have the cashflow to over that additional overhead.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The pro-theft communities are not going to like that bottom left panel.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Are there pro-theft communities that support stealing directly from other (not super rich) individuals? I don’t think corporations are victims of the oppressive system, so stealing from them is still ethically congruent

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Small businesses can be such victims.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Seriously, the amount of people who assume that insurance will take care of everything is astonishing. Like have you never dealt with a insurance claim before? And not to mention the premium increases. Small businesses get fucked over by theft.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

Which is why you almost never see them advocate theft from such places

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That is a good example, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

To be fair, if much of the money goes straight up the chain to corporate, then stealing is still hurting corporate's bottom line. It's just that it's also doing a lot of damage to the local branch, which could be hurting locals and creating food deserts.

(I'm not a theft advocate, btw.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It's common in restaurants, but not so much in supermarkets. I think the biggest/most well known supermarket that franchises is sav a lot.

Safeway, Kroger, King Sooper etc are not and in fact own multiple brands. Kroger for instance owns not Only Kroger stores but Fred Meyer and King Soopers and a few others.

They're free for the pickings as far as I'm concerned along with Walmart, I might not steal myself but I'll be turning the other way rq if I see someone else doing it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Franchising big supermarkets is totally unheard of in my country.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're still shafting poor people when you steal stuff from local shops, even if they belong to large corporations. They usually start locking up items that are frequently stolen and sometimes even close down entirely. This is how food deserts are made.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t think that’s the main problem contributing to food deserts. In my city, zoning regulations and anticompetitive contracts have created them… so, shitty business practices and nimbyism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's not the main problem by a long shot but it's certainly impacting existing businesses. For some of them it's just the final nail in the coffin.

Dumbass nimby boomers and zoning are a whole other can of worms. If you can spare the free time to annoy your city council with your pet peeves (which said boomer nimbys often can) you can get a lot of things done.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lol. Good to delineate which crimes are activism

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is. It's how you get laws changed.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's also how you destroy the environment of the Niger River Delta.

You want to take out the pumps, not the pipelines.

(Calm down NSA, I'm saying this purely in jest)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I get what you're saying, but there's practical considerations. There's just too many pumps for that to be feasible. Only a couple pipes though.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

On the other hand, if you blow up all the pumps, it takes more resources to replace those than it would to simply repair a couple pipes.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 year ago

Why tf would you steal from a person when there's perfectly evil companies to steal from?

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Chad Blue Furry vs the Virgin Yellow Furry

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That bottom left comic would actually play out with blue guy getting stabbed, and his wallet taken.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

That bottom left comic would actually play out with blue guy getting stabbed, and his wallet taken.

By someone who had just said that they're engaging in crime specifically for the activism angle?

No offense, but I don't think you're qualified to know what would actually play out when one politically aware bipedal dog tries to mug another.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

No offense, but I don’t think you’re qualified to know what would actually play out when one politically aware bipedal dog tries to mug another.

Brand new sentence.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Touche, politically aware dogs aren't people. Lol

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

blue guy getting stabbed, and his wallet taken

Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

His guts wide.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Blue would have been stabbed at “you’re a common criminal now”, probably.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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