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[–] [email protected] 126 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Then they aren't really about efficiency, are they? When properly set up, WFH for office work is very effective and efficient.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But think of the billions of dollars of now unused office space. That's horrible for real estate pricing, which is where many of these fucks are invested.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 day ago

And billions of barrels of oil no longer being used and going to waste from all the travel not happening and extra heat needed.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's not even a real estate issue sometimes. I worked in an office in an industrial facility- printing custom boxes. Everyone in an office job was on a hybrid schedule. No one's job required them to be at the office. All conversations were by Slack, all meetings were by Zoom even if we were all in the office. They could have knocked down the office space and put in at least two more industrial printers. Considering how backed up we got around Christmas, that would have helped them.

Some of this is just old assholes who think people need to be in the office all the time so they can watch them or something. I don't know.

At least they didn't make me wear a tie.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My last job was highly similar. It honestly would have been more tolerable (the stress) if I’d just been able to work from home.. I mean it’s not the sort of job you could pretend to do if not being monitored, it was metric-driven and triggered by customer contact.. so what’s the point?

They said “we want to foster communication so having people in the office does that!” Umm my department is the only one in the company that is chained to our desk..? We can’t get up because we have to be available for contacts.. and when people come by to talk to us, it’s usually a bad thing because they are interrupting actual real work. To top it off, our cube cell thing was right next to the door where everyone hung out waiting for each other to go to lunch, and because we were the only department that did external contact, they didn’t even think to shut the fuck up.

I’ll never willingly work in an office again. Not just because my disability makes commuting difficult sometimes, but because the environment is just -bad-.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

they already said it themselves: "Requiring federal employees to come to the office five days a week would result in a wave of voluntary terminations that we welcome" so no, it was never about efficiency. at all.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't you love when someone from outside talks big shit pretending to know what YOUR job is and determining its not needed?

Almost like firing people based on code written didn't backfire last time..

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Read Project 2025, the plan is to get rid of federal employees and replace them with Trump loyalists.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

Agreed 100%. I used to work a hybrid schedule and I was much more efficient when I was at home and could be both relaxed and not distracted or annoyed by coworkers.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They are about more efficiency in enriching themselves. Forcing people back into inefficient office-based work is just a tool to fire huge chunks of them while filtering for those easier exploited.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 1 day ago (4 children)

So the government telling businesses how they have to operate is small government now?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I assume they mean all government positions. Hey look at that it's in the headline

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Yes. Much more power to a small amount of rich morons and sycophants while firing most people actually doing government day-to-day work makes the government smaller...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

So small it'll fit right in your vagina.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

Imagine owning the libs by spending your whole life trapped in an office serving capital.

[–] [email protected] 84 points 1 day ago (2 children)

At least they're open about it: The entire point (according to them) is attrition. The actual plan is to make work for these people much more hostile so they quit.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do you think our tax bills will drop if they succeed in forcing these million employees to quit?

They said they want to run the government like a business, and it looks like that's what they're pursuing. Unfortunately, that just means they'll give us the lowest quality service at the highest possible price.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They said they want to run the government like a business,

In other words: terribly. They want to run the government terribly, exactly how business runs in this country.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

At the expense of everyone for the benefit of the few.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 1 day ago

god I fucking hate these people. Pure fucking hatred.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Working from home for all jobs that it is compatible with should be a mandate to help lower the amount of gas necessary for commuting.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago

You think these ghouls don't have tons of investments in oil.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep but that means you're not buying gas, which is a crime

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

That hurts their profits

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ha ha, joke's on them. Our office doesn't have space for all of us. We downsized to ..gasp.. save money, which is what the federal government is supposed to do. They'd also have to renegotiate the union contract, something they just finished doing, so it's not something they really even can address for several years at least.

But Biden isn't squeaky clean on this either, he mandated some percentage of office space being utilized. Supposedly this was to help local businesses, like the fast food chicken place across the street that has survived without us there for almost 5 years now. (They were renovating our building and had us all move out during the pandemic.)

But there's something wrong with the formula being used to calculate utilization of the building - and in our case, even if every cube was full every day, we still wouldn't meet the requirement, because of how it's calculated. I don't have details, but it apparently includes space people can't occupy - like server rooms and the cafeteria - and there's no way to get an exception.

I'm pretty sure upper management would continue the telework setup if they could (I really think they intended to be primarily remote before the Biden administration put the brakes on it). But higher authorities have said no. Our current telework agreement is that we have to go into the office twice per pay period (two weeks), which isn't too bad, but I'd still prefer not. My return to office is scheduled for February. We're bracing for a lot of people to find other jobs or retire, and it has already begun.

I'm hoping to retire in about 7 years. Maybe this next administration will buy me out. I'd be open to a generous severance package.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

it apparently includes space people can’t occupy - like server rooms and the cafeteria - and there’s no way to get an exception.

I'm sure they've convened a committee to schedule a meeting to begin discussions on the color of the folder for the updated rules that will fix this. So maybe by 2030 you'll be able to hit your utilization goals.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

We kept it gray!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Lol they're not going to get top talent unless they raise pay

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We owe commercial real estate investors exactly jacksh’t. This is, at least in part, about securing income for commercial landlords. Their “jobs” aren’t any more precious than anyone else’s jobs that are being impacted hard by this changing era. If they would like to fill their buildings, they can fork over some cash to convert parts of them to housing.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why? I think businesses should be left alone to decide.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They’re talking about federal employees

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