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[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

3/4 of volume is taken by wood, what are you, russian logistics officer?

also no way to attach spoon-type igniter, this thing is properly ancient design

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (3 children)

want longer range? hear me out:

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I’ve seen the videos of boot instructors being rightfully paranoid that the boots are gonna drop the live grenades during training, I feel like adding these into the mix would straight up give them heart attacks.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

yeah, this would end badly. which is why bore-safe 40mm grenades were made (and rifle grenades before that)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Ye olde grenade yeeter

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

the boys i mean are not refined

[–] [email protected] 26 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

How about just clubbing someone with a live explosive?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

This only works if you are black and Scottish

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

They got more **** ******** ***** **** *** ******* than they got the likes of me.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 1 day ago (14 children)

baseball.

The average American could be expected to already know how to throw a baseball, so it was easier to change the equipment to fit the user than to train every fucking soldier how to throw a lopsided stick.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Knife juggler here, so I have a lot of experience throwing off-CG objects...

It's not really that different from throwing a baseball. It's a little more difficult to catch, but with very little practice ( like 5 or 10 minutes) you'll be able to do it. That being said, I think the "baseball" style grenades where adopted because they can fit through smaller openings, you can roll or tumble them towards your target, they're harder to see, and harder to scoop up and throw back.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

And that was when the SAS started recruiting 'grenade returner' jugglers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 hours ago

Uhh, what do you think Wimbledon is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

we are so lucky that basketball wasn't as popular back then

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's a reason for then not now.

Better question is then why didn't Germany stick with the old design instead of switching to more "modern" looking grenades?

And the answer is NOT "baseball". The answer is that they're too heavy and cumbersome. And the cons outweighs the pros.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The answer is it simplified NATO logistics

Pray we don't simplify it further

[–] [email protected] 11 points 11 hours ago

Is this why soldiers in the rest of the world kick their grenades like a soccer ball?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

That and all the other reasons. The only stick grenades still around in appreciable numbers are anti-armor grenades where the handle has a parachute inside. For normal fragmentation grenades, essentially everyone has moved to non-stick grenades (except the USMC who want to make stick grenades).

Even in WW2, the Germans produced more of the boring looking Model 39 grenades than they did of the iconic and eye catching stick grenades. People notice what they want to notice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Hungary made stick grenades until relatively recently, but even there stick part is much shorter (M42)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Why I hedge with "essentially everyone" because I know some obscure Literally Who is always going to be an exception.

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 23 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I put the fuze on both sides, that way I always come out topped.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Yeah, what could possibly go wrong? Blow me in half?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Wisest wizard gets weird in the marines

[–] [email protected] 5 points 11 hours ago

It's not weird if the whole squad contribute

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I can carry 8 modern hand grenades, or 2 of those things.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

I'm pretty sure you can carry at least 3 of them

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

We should use those ball throwers for dogs. Imagine the distance you could get! Then you could have 8 normal grenades and throw them stupid distances.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 11 hours ago

What a sick idea. You should always use balls to play fetch with dogs, grenades are way too expensive.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

An atlatl for grenades!

A splatlatl, if you will.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 hours ago

Genuinely made me actually laugh out loud

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Too many people tried using them as hammers.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago

Not sure if you're joking but the German Stielhandgranate was literally nicknamed "potato masher" by soldiers, so there may be some truth to that

[–] [email protected] 22 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

TNT filler is very stable. It's fine. I mean, the grenades would not be great as hammers, but they won't explode at a touch.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 15 hours ago

Barbed for my pleasure uwu

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 day ago

This destroys the butthole.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 22 hours ago

count to ten

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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 day ago (23 children)

The Germans did have hand grenades without a stick. Their doctrine was the stick type was for offensive operations, and the little one was favored for defense.

I assume this has something to do with the distance you can throw them.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 day ago

Also they're way bigger, taking more space in storage and when in transport

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

aka potato masher

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