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[–] [email protected] 79 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

baseball.

The average American could be expected to already know how to throw a baseball, so it was easier to change the equipment to fit the user than to train every fucking soldier how to throw a lopsided stick.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Knife juggler here, so I have a lot of experience throwing off-CG objects...

It's not really that different from throwing a baseball. It's a little more difficult to catch, but with very little practice ( like 5 or 10 minutes) you'll be able to do it. That being said, I think the "baseball" style grenades where adopted because they can fit through smaller openings, you can roll or tumble them towards your target, they're harder to see, and harder to scoop up and throw back.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

And that was when the SAS started recruiting 'grenade returner' jugglers.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

Uhh, what do you think Wimbledon is?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

we are so lucky that basketball wasn't as popular back then

[–] [email protected] 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's a reason for then not now.

Better question is then why didn't Germany stick with the old design instead of switching to more "modern" looking grenades?

And the answer is NOT "baseball". The answer is that they're too heavy and cumbersome. And the cons outweighs the pros.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The answer is it simplified NATO logistics

Pray we don't simplify it further

[–] [email protected] 11 points 10 hours ago

Is this why soldiers in the rest of the world kick their grenades like a soccer ball?

[–] [email protected] 29 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

That and all the other reasons. The only stick grenades still around in appreciable numbers are anti-armor grenades where the handle has a parachute inside. For normal fragmentation grenades, essentially everyone has moved to non-stick grenades (except the USMC who want to make stick grenades).

Even in WW2, the Germans produced more of the boring looking Model 39 grenades than they did of the iconic and eye catching stick grenades. People notice what they want to notice.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Hungary made stick grenades until relatively recently, but even there stick part is much shorter (M42)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 hours ago

Why I hedge with "essentially everyone" because I know some obscure Literally Who is always going to be an exception.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (3 children)

I thought it was American football as the design is more shaped to be more closely resembling a hand held size 🏈

American football was simply more popular back then too, but a little less now in terms of ratio, but the crowd has still grown instead of shrinking/stagnantion

[–] [email protected] 22 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 21 hours ago

Because sometimes you need to take out a tank.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

A football is WAY bigger than a grenade, and football was way less popular in the 40s because 1. Baseball came first and 2. Baseball is better in person and TVs sucked. Even if more people play football now, it's still better to design grenades around baseballs because you spend more time practicing with a ball in baseball, and only one person per team knows how to throw a football.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 22 hours ago

Oh, they made a football grenade don't you worry.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago

Next generation grenades would be kicked ⚽️💥

[–] [email protected] 2 points 21 hours ago

As someone who played football (american), that is incorrect. Most people on the team learn how to throw it properly, with the spiral. You like the game, so you toss around the ol' pigskin.

The quarterback is chosen for a variety of reasons.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

In my opinion I think it's more likely for someone to have played baseball then football

Cause football needs alot more prep when baseball can be just a random school activity

Note: I'm not athletic at all and this is just based on my personal experiences

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

Why aren't grenades shaped like hacky sacks