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[–] [email protected] 76 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Mastodon is gatekept to hell and back, the technicalities of federation are exposed to the user for some reason (you already lose half your potential user base right there), infighting between instances means that you won't see the entire discourse of a post depending on which instance you're at...

And besides all that, bsky is not as "corpo" as mastodon fanboys make it out to be. They're on track to open up to privately hosted instances as well, and you can already run most of their backend stuff yourself.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

As much as I like the 'decentralized' stuff, the technical part of federation should NEVER be exposed to the end user if you want the platform to be mainstream. I still don't understand why a lot of federated projects think it's a good idea to expose that to the end user.

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[–] [email protected] 80 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (23 children)

"Write a bit about yourself to join this server and if we decide you're too boring and normal we'll reject your application and say you're a spammer afterwards"

Hmm I wonder why normies aren't flocking to these fediverse platforms, what could be stopping them, couldn't be the shitty onboarding process could it? Nah asking people to apply is the best onboarding process ever (obvious big ass /s)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Many Lemmy instances are requiring their users to apply for an account.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

And that makes it better how?

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[–] [email protected] 238 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I feel like you guys are addicted to letting perfect be the enemy of good. Yes, Bluesky being corporate run will probably be an issue down the line, but if it becomes mainstream then people will be used to seeing .APP.INSTANCE and feel more comfortable with the fediverse interface, which I know at least for me was a big hurdle. Like seriously, the fact that the next big thing is federated, even if in name only, is a big step forward.

[–] [email protected] 78 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I'm a huge believer in federated systems but I believe that a lot of 'normies' going to bluesky is a huge step in the right direction. Even though most don't know anything about the tech behind it and migrate because twitter has become a bot infested right wing hell scape, they still are one step closer to being fully integrated to the fediverse.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (4 children)

Bluesky's ActivityPub support is also leagues better than Threads because of Bridgy Fed. At least a Bluesky user and a Mastodon user can follow each other and have a back-and-forth conversation.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 21 hours ago

Yeah exactly! I've even used the bridge yesterday since I'm on Mastodon, and my girlfriend just migrated to bluesky after hearing about the exodus. The process is really easy and only takes a bit of time for some of the DMs to get sent, but otherwise I have no complaints!

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Expecting perfection is a huge problem in all aspects of life. People just want instant perfection and aren't willing to work towards it. Then there's just apathy and that leads to stagnation or worse regression.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 10 hours ago

Twitter's already served its purpose. People slagging it off because it's losing money really don't understand that it won a country.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (7 children)

If Mastodon wanted to be preferred, it should have been better. I moved to Mastodon over a year ago when the Twitter sale first happened. It was not great then and it’s gotten slightly worse since. I created a Bluesky account two days ago and it already offers exactly the experience I missed from Twitter before Elon.

Would it be better if Mastodon was good and the federated FOSS option was superior? Sure, absolutely. But, that scenario isn’t even close to the case we are presented with.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

Can you give actual examples?

I feel the only thing that Mastodon 'misses' is some feed to get you addicted.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago

Which is precisely what makes people actually use twitter

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Might be paranoid, but I feel as if alot of the anti-mastoron sentiment is astroturfing. Might just be me and my schizo anti-corpo mind though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 14 hours ago

Seconded, some specific examples would be helpful.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 20 hours ago

I’ve been a heavy Mastodon user for two years, and I honestly don’t see why so many people on Lemmy give it so much shit. Certainly not in favour of the likes of Bluesky.

I get WAY more engagement with my posts on there than I ever did on Twitter. And maybe I’m just at an age where I don’t give a shit about celebrity, but I couldn’t care less that all the Big Names have gone to Bluesky and Threads. It’s great not seeing the same people being shared into my TL all the time.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 19 hours ago

I think the hate for BlueSky is proof that it's important enough to work. Buhbye elon

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Jumping from one frying pan into the next.

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