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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago

See? This. This is why I don't trust my safety to electronic systems. The fancy computer controlled locks and latches are great when they work. When they don't, shit like this happens.

At least most cars still have a physical connection between the door handle and the locking mechanism. Not Tesla, for no good goddamned reason.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

In the US there are nine investigations involving the Tesla Model Y, ranging from “unexpected brake activation” to “sudden unintended acceleration,” according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Nice

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Expect those investigations to quietly go away or turn up nothing in about two months from now.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

"when a crash disabled its electronic doors."

Female AI voice: Please stay in your seats with your seat belts on until Elon has been notified of this incident.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That one’s a deal breaker. Never getting in an Tesla again. And yes, that means a lot of taxi cabs 🤷‍♂️🙄

[–] [email protected] 114 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Killed by the department of efficiency

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's an apt analogue for what we should all expect from the DOGE; burning to death while everyone watches in terror.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Holy fuck, I never registered that that was the acronym for it.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, it was the whole point.

When Trump first said that, I wondered why the hell he's talking about Musk asking for a position title that never existed, and then he tweeted out some BS AI gen of him with the title 'DOGE' on a nameplate in front of him.

He basically is a 13 year old who never grew up.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

what a metaphor for America

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Well they don't say where it was but I'm assuming it's Canada since a Canada post employee saved one by smashing the window with a big pole so she could crawl out.

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 days ago (1 children)

In my neck of the woods a couple weeks ago five people burned to death in a Tesla. Apparently called 911 from inside the car too. No national news on this either.

https://www.veronapress.com/townnews/highway/update-on-nov-1-town-of-verona-crash-that-killed-five-people/article_39070b78-9ad8-11ef-8de9-a7707b602caa.html

[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 days ago (19 children)

This is what it says on their website. Hope you've got the link handy if you're in a crash, and also that you're not in one that doesn't have this...

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

Not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors.

I think I see a problem.

Also: that's waaaay too many steps for an emergency. Imagine trying to dismantle the door trim when you have a concussion.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 80 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Look it's very simple if you get in a crash and are on fire.

Stop. Drop. Roll. Remove the mat from the bottom of the rear door pocket. Press the red tab to remove the access door. Pull the mechanical release cable forward. Remember that not all Model Y vehicles are equipped with a manual release for the rear doors. Die.

Rolls right off the tongue. If you're still in trouble call 0118 999 88199 9119 725 3.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Find a good lawyer and sue the living shit out of Tesla and "Leon." I agree with the majority of the comments.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

We should rebrand him as Emperor Cleon (Day)

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I can't believe there isn't an NHTSA regulation about manual egress from an unpowered vehicle. This is just bonkers.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (13 children)

There are manual releases but they're hidden. They need to be more obvious because these cars are rented to people and obviously the owners aren't taking the time to figure out where they're at.

I would also think just having secondary power packs in each door would help in the event power is cut to ensure the doors can continue to function for a few minutes while also a speaker could explain how to use the emergency release if none of the doors are working.

All this added complexity and cost isn't worth it to me, manual doors just make sense for so many reasons.

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago

Or, how about this: it’s a door, have it work like every other car door for the last 70 years.

Redesigning stuff to make it “cool” and “futuristic” is fucking stupid and is clearly not safe. Doors have handles, the handles are pulled to open the door. Keep it simple.

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[–] [email protected] 260 points 2 days ago (41 children)

When I first learned that Teslas (and almost all other EV's) have electronic only doors, I knew this kind of situation would happen.
I hope this gets laws enacted that force manufacturers to install mechanical latches on all of their vehicles. I know Teslas have manual overrides on their front doors, but the rear doors still have this issue.

[–] [email protected] 79 points 2 days ago (5 children)

I hope this gets laws enacted that force manufacturers to install mechanical latches on all of their vehicles.

Considering Musk's love affair with the incoming administration, I wouldn't bet on it for the next 4 years (hopefully)

In fact I'd be happy to just have the NHTSA avoid being dismantled in the next 4 years

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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When I first learned that Teslas (and almost all other EV’s) have electronic only doors

I really just want a regular car with an EV power train. Don't to change a bunch of shit on the car, unless it is germane to its function as an EV. Things like doors, instrument clusters, turn signals, infotainment, HVAC controls, shifting (e.g. park, reverse, drive) should be the same as any other vehicle.

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It's like if Titanic not only didn't have enough lifeboats, but instead had no lifeboats, and also everyone was locked in their cabins.

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What fucking idiot builds fail-deadly electric door controls into a very flammable car

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 days ago

Anything owned by Muskrat

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but mechanical car door handles aren't "Cool." You don't want to have a car that isn't cool, right?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Some GenZ kids were talking about how cool rolling up a window with a handle was and wished it was in cars again. It was refreshing to hear.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When electric windows became a thing I considered it a downgrade because it meant that I couldn't roll down my window when the engine was off.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Who could see this coming, other than literally everybody

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This reminds me... I need a glass breaking hammer for safety in my non Tesla car.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They might all have one but if not, get one that has a seat belt cutter on it. And keep it in the front console, not anywhere in the back or in the glove compartment.

I knew someone (an acquaintance, we weren't close) who died in a crash because their seatbelt got stuck and they couldn't get out. They had one of those cutter hammer combos but it was in the back seat. Absolutely nightmarish.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Also fix it to the console with a clip. Can’t use the cutter when it is out of reach because the car flipped over. And buy more than one, driver could become incapacitated after a crash while the backseat passengers are stuck.

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[–] [email protected] 158 points 2 days ago (38 children)

There is a manual override in Tesla cars but the feature is not widely publicized, experts say.

Tesla isn't the only culprit here. Any manufacturer that makes cars with electric doors should be required to also have a prominent and easily reachable manual override, instead of hiding a tiny lever underneath the armrest or on the floor, or behind the person's seat on the pillar somewhere, or any fucking place that isn't where you would expect a door handle to be.

[–] [email protected] 128 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Should just be a law to have a regular fucking door handle, we don't need fancy/electric doors. Telsa's should all be taken off the road with their shitty track record.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Always have an emergency tool in your car to break your windows in case this shit happens to you. Even if you're in a car not designed by a god damn moron.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago

So happy my car is not a tesla.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago

Ah when you try to reinvent the the wheel, fail, and then kill people with it

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