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My wife and I make okay money in a middle class area, but, due to a combination of good luck, and contrived to circumstances, we recently got to watch a college football game in the stadium's super executive corporate sponsor level suite. It was awesome. Open bar, amazing catered food, and people networking all around me who are clearly in the c-suite of their respective companies. I had a list of crazy things I was going to say if someone asked me what I did, but it never came up.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I got very randomly bumped up to first class on a transatlantic flight for business. I do not travel much for business, especially internationally. So, I definitely should not have had priority over more regular accounts. I have to assume I just got lucky, and that flight happened to have no frequent flyers.

It was an eye opening experience. I got to hang out in a secret lounge. When my flight was ready to board, multiple staff escorted us to the gate. When we landed, we took a private van to a secret side entrance, which had its own first class only passport check. We were brought to another secret first class lounge through hidden back hallways to wait for our connections. The lounge looked down over the terminal, and the exit was a nondescript door you'd assume was a maintenance entrance.

Being around that level of service and the other people in first class, it's clear the wealthy live in another world. I looked up how much that ticket normally goes for after, and full price is for many people a yearly salary. It was nice, but it seems like a crazy way to divide resources.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I got invited to some sort of literary award ceremony at the French embassy a few years back. I, uh, severely underdressed for the occasion. I got the invite for participating in the Albertine book store's bookclub, and for whatever reason, my brain went, "I can show up to this like I would dress for a bookclub session, it's the same people." Spoiler, it was not, and I really should have been at least in a button up and slacks, rather than my hoodie and jeans. As luck would have it, the gentleman who won the award, Emmanuel Dongala, was sat next to me during the speeches. I can still remember the look of "What the classless, American fuck is this guy doing?" as he took his seat next to me.

On the other hand, I went to my first opera at the NY Metropolitan Opera last year basically dressed the same way, and it was surprisingly entirely fine. Turns out, very few people want to be sat for hours in formal attire when hardly anyone can see you in the dark, anyway.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Which opera did you see? I am an opera lover and I've seen people wearing tuxedos with flip-flops, and a dog wearing a rhinestone necklace.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I went and saw Nabucco. Was pretty enjoyable, and I got to sit in the orchestra section with one of the cheaper tickets they release the day of the performance. Would go back for another if I could avail myself of the program again.

I had also deliberately picked one of the shorter operas they put on that season, wasn't trying to commit to some 5 hour monstrosity straight out the gate.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, where I live now.

I rent a bare-bones townhouse. Two rooms, and a basement with an old washer and dryer, and a small garage.

I have always lived in apartments, sometimes with fewer rooms than people. Having an entire place of my own (that's not a studio apartment) is sometimes unbelievable to me. A washer and dryer downstairs? No quarters? I don't have to look for a spot, I have a garage? I don't have to cram my entire life in one room, I have an "office!?" This will likely be the closest to "home owner" I'll get and it still feels unreal after almost two years here. It's certainly not going into anyone's Pinterest board, and there are issues, but I always feel "bougie" when I open the garage 🤣

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I felt like that when we rented the townhouse. It was also pretty bare bones, but it was nice to have a house. Sadly the landlord evicted us so his kid could have his place, so I ended up in an apartment again, and now my rent is so much more as we lived in the townhouse for so long. I do have a washer and dryer and dishwasher though so at least that is nice and it's beautifully renovated but it still sucks. We had this incredible patio garden.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Business class flight to Japan. I’m just some engineer in a rural factory and was headed to some rural factories, but damn was the trip fancy. As we landed my coworker had to explain that the booze was free.

It was definitely a wild journey

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Shouldn't your coworker have told you that the drinks were free before you landed?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

He had no idea I hadn’t flown like that before I mentioned I had to ask the stewardess the price of the food and drinks

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One time I went to the restaurant DAMON BAEHREL. I was informed afterwards that it had a 10-year waiting list and only seated 100 people a month. Despite having regularly commuted between the Midwest and the East Coast, getting there felt like the longest road trip I've ever taken since I had to go with my mother-in-law and some of it is on a gravel road.

I had to Google DAMON BAEHREL to spell it and I'm not going to bother retyping it.

It was far and away the most pretentious, absurd, cartoonishly fancy experience I've ever had, and I've dressed up in antique ceremonial Moroccan robes for a banquet at the art museum in the city I grew up in. At the art museum I sat next to the mayor's mother in a room of 200 people conversely, about 30 people total could fit into DAMON BAEHREL.

I thought the art museum banquet was fancy, but when I was little I thought Boston Market and IBC root beer were fancy.

DAMON BAEHREL was the kind of place that serves a dozen 'courses' but each one is like one cracker one sliver of cheese and one spritz of condiment with maybe a sliver of sausage made from some bespoke farm animal. He insisted that the water we were drinking was actually unreduced tree sap. Everything was served on various slabs of wood some with the bark still on it. The slabs were so much larger than the food It looked like putting a coin on a serving platter for each course.

I just felt embarrassed every time I looked at the Damon and his staff. They had clearly heard his bullshit so many times that it was hard for them to feign credulity anymore.

Anyway, that shit was way too fancy for me. Clearly it was just wasted on me.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, but how was that food?

I just tried a fine dining restaurant for the first time this past weekend.

I was just curious after watching a bunch of cooking competitions on Netflix about how good that kind of food could be so decided to find a Michelin star restaurant and give it a try.

While the portions were small, the food was on another level. Even the "worst" of it was only that because it wasn't amazing, but still really good.

The food was so good that when I got home and snacked that night, it was hard to enjoy any of my usual favorite snacks because it all felt so basic after that.

It was fancy in other regards, too. Like when my buddy went to the bathroom, someone came over and folded his cloth napkin rather than leave it bunched up on the table.

Plus, even though the portions were tiny and we joked about whether we'd need to stop for fast-food afterwards, by the end of the 9 or so courses, I felt completely satisfied. Even the snacking I mentioned was more due to the munchies than actual hunger.

It was expensive though. Two taster menu plus two drinks each came to about 500 CAD plus tip. And it was one of the cheaper options. There was a two Michelin star sushi place that advertised seats starting at 800 and I'm not even sure that includes any food, though I think it gets the "chef cooks what he wants" menu, which tbf would probably be way better than what I'd want anyways.

This place only needed to be booked like a month in advance, so the place you're talking about sounds like it's on another level itself. Though I'm curious how much that other level translates to better food.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Fine dining is one thing but the ultra exclusive, incredibly pretentious, top of the range place like DAMON BAEHREL is on another level entirely and has ceased, long ago, to be about making something a person wants to eat.

It's about the art in just about the worst way possible. Fair play to the people who are into this but it's complete bullshit, relies on borderline slave labour to produce and actively dislikes it's audience.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

I wanted to learn more and found this article: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/08/29/damon-baehrel-the-most-exclusive-restaurant-in-america

Sounds like the ten year wait list might be made up and who knows where he gets his meats, but the whole thing just sounds fascinating. From his website, the current price is $550 USD a head, though it's subject to change several times per week.

He sounds like one of those guys that has a whole bunch of little projects going on at any time and over the years accumulated enough results from those to host some volume of dinner parties. And possibly exaggerates or lies about some of them (though hard to say if he treats his cooking similarly to how he treats his legend/myth).

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I ate dinner in NYC at the penthouse fancy restaurant of some five star hotel. I could barely eat I was so intimidated. The food at that time was for some reason having a trend of "foams", which is this weird thing where it was like lobster with a side of foamy stuff. I never understood how that was food, but the restaurant by itself was incredible.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

A foam is just another texture of a sauce as a garnish, and typically not the main sauce. It's not as "why was that even food" as people put on. It's just an easy scapegoat for something different.

Cotton candy is air fluff that melts instantly on your tongue and leaves a bubblegum or artificial cherry taste behind. A foam is a similar thing, just with basil or truffle to compliment a piece of lamb sauced with its jus.

It's just lazy commentary.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It wasn't like a sauce. It was like a foam whipped with bits of lobster. Like lobster flavoured foam, it definitely wasn't an accompaniment. I'm not describing it right, but it wasn't like a side. It's been like twenty years.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 days ago

I went with a friend to Vegas. He was going to one of those super-posh conferences for his line of work, and just casually wanted to split the hotel bill (because he's cheap; the dude could afford to live in one of those hotels year round). At the end of the conference, all of his colleagues were throwing some party at the top of one of the hotels on the strip. He helped me through the security screen and we left the elevator. We went from a world of bright lights and gaudiness to dark passion and sultry beats where each seat at their reclined cushion alcoves was worth thousands of dollars. Prostitution may be illegal in Vegas, technically, but escorts that looked like world-famous supermodels (male and female, to be clear) were writhing across every lap at those recessed tables.

My friend got me to the balcony, where I got a picture of the entire strip at night. Then my friend casually mentioned that getting a drink would be about $1200 and we went back down to the normal floors for the free booze and $2 blackjack.

[–] [email protected] 225 points 3 days ago (15 children)

My older brother is a Tony Award winning producer and I took a trip to NYC ten years ago. His business partner is a former schoolteacher who became friends with a celebrity and got rich producing her stage plays.

Before going to NYC, I called them up and told them "Hey, I'm going to go see the Yankees while I'm there. There are $15 tickets in the outfield. Wanna go?" It was Jeter's last year and I wanted to see him play live at Yankee Stadium. Their response was "Don't worry, we'll handle it."

Handling it meant lunch at the stadium club, with Peyton Manning and a bunch of celebrities in the dining room and lobster piled higher than my head, literally. The most luxurious lunch I've had in my life. Then we rode the escalator down to our seats, through a tunnel lined with every free candy you can think of on both sides, to the second row behind the Yankee dugout, with our own dedicated server, who kept bringing us wonderful drinks. (TEN FEET AWAY FROM DEREK JETER) Then, in the third inning, another surprise: someone taps me on my shoulder holding one of the bases from batting practice, which my brother's business partner purchased and had framed for me with my ticket and a photo.

That was too overwhelming. I couldn't help but cry.

We went for another meal in the 7th inning. The food was still fresh and amazing.

The Yankees lost that day, but it's okay.

I call it my 'Make a Wish' Day.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Not mine, but my uncle's story. In the late 70s or 80s, can't remember, my uncle was a young man in Boston, MA. New transplant to the US with limited English working minimum wage at a famous hotel in town, by famous I mean all the rock and roll stars stayed in this hotel when they were in Boston. There are other wild stories for another day.

On this day his manager was scrambling to look for him and told him that he had to drive a VIP somewhere. He was speechless, and asked wtf is going on ? He had a humble tiny hatchback manual drive ford fiesta? with only a driver's side mirror. The artist was Blondie and she was late for the show. They wanted the most non descript car to zip halfway through the clogged city to the venue.

He was like wtf, but fuckkit here we go.

He drove the Blondie singer from the hotel to the venue quick and easy like superman and saved the day.

I have to go back and ask what conversation they had.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Debbie Harry! I wonder what she thought of the whole thing haha

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I was tier one help desk, overnight, in a children's hospital.

I had a doctor call me, who expressly made it clear he didn't want a run around, while manually palpating a child's heart to keep it in rhythm and thus, the child alive.

I told him there are back ups upon back ups that can be implemented, and I am happy to talk about his computer problem when the patient is SAFE. Not a little, "we got this," safe, but SAFE.

Tier one help desk, overnight, no support, and I had to tell a person who turned out to be a board member that he could go fuck himself on his computer problem until the child patient was safe.

My first job was customer service, and I've been in IT for a dozen years. Its still customer service. You just have to realize who the customer is - in the case of a children's hospital, it is always the child.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

That's wild. Was there even a good reason for him to call you? Like, was the IT thingie he needed for one of the machines they were using? And was there any followup to you telling the board member / doc that he should be focusing on other things?

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[–] [email protected] 123 points 3 days ago (14 children)

Growing up poor, and eventually working my way into a tech job dealt me a long stream of culture shocks. Just socialising with people earning over 100k is wild. The vacations, hobbies, and even anecdotes, are all so different than what I imagined. I feel I betray my roots a thousand times a day.

I know this is just basic working class petit bourgeois stuff (that I'm part of), but the carefree attitude is so alien to me. I can't imagine feeling so entitled to luxury.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Im not so sure 100k will give folks super vacations and hobbies anymore. I mean if it just crests it.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

My aunt did hostile takeovers and her husband was even more rich. Their kitchen was bigger than my entire house. And that was their vacation house. I couldn't appreciate most of it, I was just a kid. But I remember my cousin had a pool in his room.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

pool in his room

Come on. You're making this up, don't you? Or are there really people who have a pool in their kids room?

Come on, that's too wild.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 day ago

Having seen how my buddy lives with his family being in the ~$100M net worth range and them overall being quite modest people, I'd 100% believe someone well above that and/or wanting to flaunt their wealth in a stupidly ostentatious manner would put a pool in their kid's room.

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[–] [email protected] 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

A girl I dated was friends with the daughter of one of Microsoft's founders and we got invited to their house to watch Seafair. I think it's be safe to call it a small mansion right on the water with a dock. The kitchen was as big as my whole apartment. The technology was a bit dated but must've been state of the art when it was built. Switches for automated everything. On the water we had front row seats to the Blue Angels. They are incredibly loud up close.

The guy was super down to earth. Had a good conversation where he showed genuine interest in me and what I did.

9.9/10, the hot tub was broken

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 days ago

Paul Allen had no kids so you could just say one of Bill Gates' daughters.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Fundraiser at a very expensive art school. I was a scholarship student at a cocktail mixer, and I was at the mixer because it was being held in the department I was majoring in. All of the people that were attending were fine arts patrons, the kind of people that drop tens of thousands on art without thinking twice about it. I was--literally--a punk kid with tattoos and shit tons of piercings, and I was supposed to be pleasant to people with millions more than I'll ever have.

Got to piss off a world famous fashion designer that evening, so that was cool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If they didn’t want to deal with punks they shouldn’t deal with art students. I hear the business students are perfectly pleasant if you lobotomize yourself.

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[–] [email protected] 97 points 3 days ago (1 children)

A friend invited me on vacation with her family. They are very wealthy compared to me. It was clear up front that lodging and meals were covered by them, but I was hazy on everything else. It stressed me out so bad.

Do I want to go with them to do some Expensive Activity? Of course, but am I paying for it? Can I afford it? Even if I can, do I want to spend my limited money on that? Do they see me as a freeloader? How are these other not-rich friends navigating this because no one ever seems to talk about money? Fortunately, my friend saw my stress and had a discrete conversation with me where we set some guidelines.

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

I have been picked up by a private airplane once. And I don't mean an private jet like a bombardier global (which are still beyond cool), I mean like a full size long range airliner. The conference room alone was larger than my apartment at the time. Who especially was send my our customer to pick up my colleague and me. Even crazier: As it was somewhat urgent the customer "called" someone in his countries air traffic control and even though we arrived through rush hour at this airport we landed priority - which meant around 12 large airliners had to wait.

(To make that clear: I am not a prostitute, especially as I am a ugly ass overweight dude, but I work in healthcare and did a fair share of VVIP jobs over the last two decades)

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Spent a night at the Iceland Blue Lagoon Retreat hotel for a special occasion. It's like $1800 USD per night so it was a huge splurge. We saw Rebel Wilson staying at the hotel too. It was fancy AF.

Absolutely wasted if you only spend one day, but we couldn't afford 2.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I was working the booth at a conference and the sales guys closed some big deal there and took everybody at the conference out to a four star restaurant. Since it was in a legal state me and the woman from marketing got really baked before we went in and had $200 steaks with a $400 bottle of wine. There were like 10 people, too so the whole bill must have been at least $4,000.

She was high as hell the whole time and trying to hide it, which was hilarious for me to watch.

I've also had Iron Chef Morimoto make sushi for me but since I paid it didn't feel above my station.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Years ago my dad took me with him to a business trip in downtown LA. He finished his meeting and we wanted some dinner so started looking around for somewhere to eat. It was in the financial district though, and by 5 or 6 every fast food place around was already closed (which is still weird to me). We were about to give up and go back to our hotel and just get room service until we saw a plain ass sign pointing down an alley that just said "steakhouse." So we followed it into the alley, down some stairs into a sketchy looking basement door that led us into the fanciest fucking restaurant I have ever been in.

Shit was straight out of a movie. The waiters had tuxedos. Everything was finished in nice looking wood, silver or gold. They had an actual maitre d! We immediately felt under dressed and had to ask if there was a dress code.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I've lived in more than one trailer. Including a trailer park. I once slept over at a friend's trailer in a different park. We had a pinecone war with kids from the other side of the trailer park. Pre-bedtime entertainment was Billy Ray Cyrus performing Achy Breaky Heart live on TNN.

I also worked on Capitol Hill, a finance firm worth dozens of billions, etc. My degree is from a shitty Christian college, but I just accepted a job at a prominent research university (staff, not faculty, but still).

I guess I feel like most of my life is relevant to this question.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was an active duty surgical tech in the US military; promoted fairly quickly and ranked up to Staff Sergeant at about 3 years. Shortly after taking that rank, we had a perfect storm of deployments, a retirement, a medical separation, etc that left me as the highest ranking enlisted in the surgery unit, which made me (a still-kinda-newby-surgical-tech) taking the responsibilities of basically a charge nurse. Chief among these was attending morning morning briefs with the top dogs of the hospital (high ranking officers) and giving report. Fortunately I knew where to access the OR's metrics, so my report was always just a summary of our case load, average times, etc.

This lasted only about a week until we got a new Master Sergeant and Tech Sergeant. Apparently I got some pretty high praise from those top dogs for stepping up (not like I had a choice) and doing a decent job -- but that was PURE luck lol. I only did well because things went relatively smoothly on their own. If there was an emergency or something I would have had no fucking clue what to do; and all the junior enlisted seemed to just know that I wouldn't have been able to do shit for them during that time, so everyone kept the smaller fires to themselves during that time.

It was a weird time.

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I stayed a few nights at the St. Regis in NYC in the presidential suite. Pretty ridiculous, 3 bedrooms, 4 baths, private butler, full kitchen and dining room, use of a Bentley, 3,430 sq ft. (318 sqm) bigger than any house I ever lived in.

Through my old job I got to do lots of stupid shit, fly private internationally, use someone's beach house for a week on their own island, etc.

While aspects of it were fun, I always felt like an outsider, and the waste really bothered me. I'm someone who bicycles or walks to the farmers market with a courier bag.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Got an extra legroom seat in the airplane by chance.

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