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From my understanding they don’t need to be FDA approved. At that point blame the store, not the FDA. I’m just glad they’re getting this done before they’re purged by the next administration

This was so infuriating during covid as it was hard to find children's cold medicine already and half the time you'd see a couple bottles of "Children's cold and flu" on the shelf, buy it, and get home before you notice "homeopathic" written in 3pt font along the bottom of the bottle. Shit's completely useless.

I'm sure the Trump Administration will get right on banning homeopathy, or even just labelling it properly. lol

The problem is, unlike homeopathy, this drug was ineffective for what it was approved for while actually causing side effects. At least the water doesn't do anything.

My former boss (Canada) kept a bag of ephedrine bottles in our produce cooler. Dude was twitchy as fuck. Very bird/dinosaur-like.

He would take several per day and chase them with coffee and energy shots. Then he would complain intermittently about vomiting blood due to his ulcers.

Who says you can't? I can walk up to the pharmacy counter and get some with ID. It's usually a helluva lot cheaper than the phenylephrine stuff, too.

I assume they submitted the results and stated they need to be removed, then reviewed the supreme courts measure that stated they only have power to make measures if Congress grants them privilege to do so (precidence, set in Julyish of 2022 with the EPA) making the specialized divisions of government created by Congress illegitimate unless Congress votes on the measure afterwards, making them just superficial recommendations for Congress to wait and see what their lobbyists think is okay.

Aka will drug companies pay enough to keep us lying to the public, vs maybe we will go by the recorded data.

Exon mobile recorded their data of environmental impacts in what year? And we had battery powered vehicles traveling up to 100 miles before that time. Instead of doing what was best for the future of the people, we chose what was best for profits. Reference article for fun; https://www.corporateknights.com/transportation/half-a-century-ago-one-u-s-senator-fought-to-ban-gas-powered-cars-almost-won

Point being. what power did they have to remove them from the shelves. I assume they are launching these last ditch efforts before Biden leaves, and praying to get some support before they get chiseled away at.

Imagine where we would be if GM/Ford and such started forcing the R&D in 1975 instead of 2005, 2015 or whatever we call it now

It won't even take that - you can sell products that don't work (airborn, homeopathy, etc.), you just can't claim that it does. So they'll slap the standard "this product is not intended to treat, cure, or prevent any disease" disclaimer on it and people will continue to buy it.

By my understanding yes, pseudoephedrine was being used for meth so they put it behind the counter and the name brand "Sudafed" made a PE line that was this, phenylephrine, to stay over the counter.

Pseudoephedrine can't legally be sold in the aisles, and requires you to get out from the pharmacist's counter and provide an ID.

That's why they push the aid that doesn't work. It can be sold at a gas station and after hours.

That I didn't know. Does that mean that the benefit from it just comes from drinking the insane amount of water it recommends?

Guaifenesin works very very well for me as an expectorant.

The entire cough/cold aisle is a gigantic scam of combo meds.

There's also Sudsfed PE which is Phenylephrine instead of pseudoephedrine. Presumably only the PE sub-brand would be banned under this rule

Maybe for you it does, although you'd need to test with placebo to really know. It's amazing how much our minds can effect things if we expect things to change.

It could also be that your pills are a significantly higher dose. If 1% is absorbed orally, maybe that pill has 100x the dose required otherwise.