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I had joined Reddit twice in my lifetime but was not actively using it, and maybe that’s the reason I’m not very familiar with this forum culture.

I would say that Lemmy is by far the most responsive SNS in terms of the community engagement that I’ve ever used.

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 5 days ago (3 children)

We all feel a responsibility to be active here ngl. So many of us have made new communities we wanted and just keep posting there to grow communities.

My total activity on only this one Lemmy account is more than all my social media ever combined. And thats just one of my 7 Lemmy accounts.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I feel like it has something to do with the fact that there's less content, so when you post something, it's actually going to be seen by people.

I didn't post or comment anything the last couple years on Reddit, largely because it increasingly felt like shouting into the void.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Yeah Lemmy is a smaller more intimate community. In fact I'm sure we've interacted before. Thats just the nature of the platform (and a positive).

Also why I don't really agree with people who think the number 1 goal of Lemmy is to grow.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

The only reason I want Lemmy to grow is because I miss having niche video game communities with more than a dozen members :c

Discord is increasingly filling that role now, but there are a large number of reasons why I'm not really a fan of that as a replacement.

Mostly I just want to talk about the new Factorio expansion with everyone...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Even if Lemmy outgrew reddit, that small-scale vibe could still be maintained very easily by any specific community with the federation tools.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

Insane effort. 🫑

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Great, I guess, but this is in no way a question.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

I think people are more encouraged to participated on lemmy than they are on reddit. I used to be able to make posts on a reddit community of 10s of thousands and never get a response. It almost never takes more than a few minutes here. Moreover, Reddit is spilling over with bots and has been for years and the responses you'd get to a post or comment are often obiously reflective of this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago

There's no better way to stifle a discussion than to see there's 10k+ replies already. Pissing in an ocean of piss.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago

Can’t agree more.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

It takes a little more effort to make an account and even know that lemmy exists. That probably dissuaded a lot of casual creepers.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This isn't a qu-- actually you heard that already (Λƒ . Λ‚ΛΆ)

I can definitely attest to the culture, which is fresh air compared to a lot of networks (e.g. that Draw a Duck post is probably far beyond a lot of platforms' capabilities/proclivities)

I think some of it boils down to:

  • The Lemmy Algorithm. This is a big flaw with Reddit -- people have the attention span for the first ten comments, and then subcomment upvotes halve (with decent std. dev -- we aren't Zipf's Law devotees there) until invisibility. I don't think my Reddit comments are even seen, let alone replied to. But here, new comments have a chance.
  • The sense of "mineness". As another here said, there's responsibility to raise your communities right, and another to interact (hence, variably lower hostility). I don't post much but I respond a lot to the people who comment in them, because I feel that I have to contribute to keep this sanctum humanly alive.
  • At risk of sounding self-absorbed/elitist, the entry level. People are here because they were dissatisfied with the state of other sites, then made a jump; this is a sieve that to an extent increases the standard of sorting by new. (This has limitations of course, and it isn't necessarily advocating for Lemmy to never be mainstream.)

Just my conjectures Β―\_(ツ)_/Β―

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What a great take from you, Mr. Fool. You’re definitely not fool. 🀣

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Haha, thanks!

Btw I think a post like this would be better suited for [email protected] (not saying to repost there now) or a similar discussion sub ദࡍദി(Λ΅ β€’Μ€ α΄— - Λ΅ ) ✧

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

I think I can post something about Lemmy that obviously not a question in here: [email protected]

[–] [email protected] 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

I like Lemmy, but it can be a very one-sided experience. If youre not in to tech or left wing politics you'll probably find little to engage with.

Edit: I guess the memes are pretty good too

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Need a mass adoption for that.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's what got me hooked into lemmy for good after being seriously sceptical for the first few tries.

Little to no comments on most posts was worrysome compared to the absolute flood of content on Reddit. But when I comment here, I get replies. And these replies feel like they matter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I also can feel the sense of belonging here.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Its a great community, reddit kinda feels like a giant automated cashflow farm, here it feels more like a village square! (For now)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

I personally would prefer to not to post/moderate on reddit so the assholesin charge can make money off of what I do.

Lemmy is amazing. we can always switch to a new instanc and still use Lemmy if the one we are on turns into what we left behind. Also more moderator transparency. At the bottom of every page is a link to the mod log. You can even filter by user. Feel free to type my name. I'm sure I've gotten something by now.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So do you think with the mass adoption in the future will ruined Lemmy just like Reddit?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You can switch to a new instance and still stay on lemmy. You can even join certain instances that defederate with other instances they (rightfully or otherwise) deem problematic.

Good luck in your search for your digital commune that best reflects your values. Maybe you're already there and you don't know it yet. Peace either way, welcome aboard.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I believe that any location that has eyeballs for advertisers or propagandists will always eventually be ruined for greed or power. The question is how long it will take. Even with careful moderation, slip up happens, corruption is slowly allowed, and special interests will seek to sway popular opinion in one way or the other.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I sort by new and most posts are not trash as they were on reddit. Things don't need 50k up votes to be valuable. Lemmy as a platform was the perfect blend of old school forms and reddit. Im just sad it took so long that people forgot how the internet is supposed to work.

It's like they get email is [email protected] but for anything else they say that's too hard. Hell even when I give my email they just assume Gmail. I swear Web 2.0 was a cancer.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Exactly mate. Social media era was to toxic.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Those of us who were on the net in the 90s, we had to make accounts for every forum / community site we wanted to use, it wasn't a big deal. Nowadays if you go over to reddit, they're convinced any site you have to create an account for is doomed to fail. Even one like this one, which similar to email, connects you with a wider network outside of the one you signed up on.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Exactly I would say the only thing that I find could improve the fediverse would be the adoption of open ID that way we could login to any instance of lemmy or mastodon using our home insurance. But I could be missing an obvious flaw with that.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 5 days ago (4 children)

I feel like Lemmy is substantially less combative. Reddit has become so very hostile over the years and every thread felt like someone was about to start a fight. Not that there isn't any here, but there feels like a normal amount, rather than an over-representation of people spoiling for a fight.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

I've said this exact thing a dozen times on here. Any time I'd get a reply notification on reddit, I'd go into it prepared for another senseless confrontation. I would fight with so many people on that platform, and I swear it made me an angrier person. Here, I still go into it half expecting the hostility, but replies are always in good spirit and pretty level-headed. I don't fight with people on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

Lemmy is substantially less combative.

That may depend on the community.

I have the opposite experience. I mostly post in niche communities on Reddit, and I find I'm ignored or get positive replies. On Lemmy I get responses, but odds are even that the response is snarky or bitchy.

I hope that will improve as the user base grows and we get more niche communities here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Hey watch this:

Vote for Harris.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

First Past the post voting is mathematically flawed and will always result in a two party system. With a more representative electoral system, people would be free to vote outside the two party system while still counting their vote against those they don't want in office.

Passing electoral reform doesn't need to happen at the federal level. The states are in control over how they tally votes. In fact, some states have already passed electoral reform. Alaska chose a more moderate conservative over Sarah Palin because of Ranked Choice voting

Given how democrats profess their devotion towards preserving democracy, you would think that in every blue state they would have passed this very much needed reform. It's not that Democrats dont understand the flaws in First Past the Post voting. Feel free to browse any post about the green party for a very public display of their understanding of this issue.

Republicans understand this as well, which is why they are beginning to pass legislation to protect FPTP voting in states they control. Why does the democratic party want to use the same voting system republicans prefer? Wouldn't you think that's a ultragigagigantic red flag? I certainly do.

No spoiler effect, more democracy, more people involved in the political process, more then one chance to defeat the republicans, and giving republicans a chance to vote for a more moderate conservative party. Changing how we vote is a win win win win scenario.

Except for the legacy political parties of course, as they would now have to compete for your vote. Perhaps both mainstream political parties would rather see the nation state shattered then to have to do so.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

What the fuck did you just fucking say about Kamala Harris you little bitch? I'll have you know she supports genocide, and has been involved in upholding a corrupt and punitive "justice" system, and she has over 1500 confirmed fuckups. I am trained in internet argumentation and I'm the top shitposter on the entire FBI watch list. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe your shit takes the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit on the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of leftists across the USA and your ignorance is being noted right now so you better prepare for the storm, liberal. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your opinion. You're fucking dead wrong, kid. I can dismantle your argument anywhere, anytime, and I can do it in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with appeals to emotion. Not only am I extensively informed on this issue, but I have access to a cherry-picked list of facts that support my opinion and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable stance off the face of this forum, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking dead wrong, kiddo.

Edit: this is not directed at drag, hence the use of you/your

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

Agree to disagree is the right value to embrace in this kind of situation I supposed.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (3 children)

This is not even a question. Please read each community’ guidelines before posting.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Since you're not familiar with this forum culture, asklemmy is used to ask questions. You did not ask a question.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It feels like a fresh start. Gotta be excited about that, right?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

Absolutely, mate.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah I've noticed that almost every post and comment seems to get at least some engagement here, whereas on reddit it's very common to make a post/comment that no one ends up seeing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

It feels like we meet and greet in the real world here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't forget to try sorting by comments instead of posts! I often forgot that button exists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Good advice. πŸ‘ŒπŸΌ

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Albeit Lemmy can too be a bit of an echo chamber at times, I find, in general, that the platform as a whole is way more open minded, and by extention, its users too, than or over Reddit.

Which their bias on most subs and janny overreach became, specially in the last few years suffocatingly annoying. Coming here was refreshing in comparison.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

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