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[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Oof, that's going to hit Trump right in his ego.

Please keep going with that strategy, Mark.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

They should start calling Musk "Trump's sugar daddy"

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Can’t wait for Trump to throw Elon under the bus once he thinks Musk has the spotlight

[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This is getting weird.

We have billionaires voicing their opinions on the presidential race in a way that hasn't happened before.

This is important to pay attention to. The reason being is it's a big club we aren't in.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

SuperPACS have gotta go and the us contribution limit should be lowered to $100 for every candidate for every year.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

No it should be zeroa and all elections publicly funded

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why not move to publicly funded elections?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I assume because it's easier to take small steps in cases like this

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

I prefer to talk about what the ideal solution might be and go from there. Incremantalism doesn't work when the opposing side wants to burn everything to the ground.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, the only real difference is that Musk is an idiot and is doing it brazenly. Every election since Citizen's United has been 100% about money, and it's not like it was a non-factor before that.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They've never been this rich before.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's kinda debatable.

Rockefeller alone accounted for as much as 3% of the US GDP at one point. That would be like 800 billion today. It's difficult to just draw a straight line of inflation on his net worth from his height to today, because the economy has fundamentally changed since then. Partially because of how fucking ruthless of a motherfucker he was.

Imagine if all cars were electric, and Tesla was ultimately the only source of electricity for everything you own. And Elon basically said if you don't vote for his guy he'll shut off the lights. And had done exactly that before.

Rockefeller, and others like him, also purchased their fair share of elected officials and if you worked for them, it was understood you voted for the guy they wanted. Or there would be consequences.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As of 2024, U.S. billionaires collectively hold 3.8% of the country's total wealth.

US billionaires now worth more than half the nation - USA Today https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2024/07/19/us-billionaires-worth-6t/74453346007/

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Imagine all that wealth being held by just one guy, and there still being a handful of others.

[–] [email protected] 66 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So, it's still a battle between Kamala and Putin then. Nothing's changed?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 weeks ago

It's a battle between Kamala and fascism

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“I just call it the machine, [the] big government machine,” Musk told attendees of his church rally. “And when the Biden puppet was not working out, they got a new puppet. But it’s still the same machine, obviously,” he added of Harris replacing President Joe Biden at the top of the ticket. Musk then alleged that returning Trump to the White House would be “the thing that scares the system” because “Donald Trump is not a puppet, he’s a real person,” adding darkly: “That’s why they’re… trying to kill him.”

Musk's latest 13-year-old edgelord idea is calling those he doesn't agree with NPCs.

Gotta make sure those you disagree with aren't even humans with agency, so you can justify whatever suits your goal - it's the ultimate strawman fallacy, literally.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago

Oh he's been doing that for years. Never this sinister about it, but he has severe main character syndrome.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"I just call it the machine, [the] big government machine,” Musk told attendees of his church rally. “And when the Biden puppet was not working out, they got a new puppet. But it’s still the same machine, obviously,"

It's like he hit adolescence in his late middle age, and is going through his edgy, "deep" phase. All he needs is some eye shadow, trench coat, and black fingernail polish.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago

That's a very evocative outfit. Maybe he could pose with it, in front of a poster that reads "Liberté" and looks like it was created by a high school art student.

Or something. I'm just spitballing.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 weeks ago

It was a joke. He frames the Democratic establishment as puppets (to a wealthy donor elite), and calls her one of those puppets. “Assassinating a puppet is pointless" is what he said, in contrast to his belief that Trump is not a puppet.

Context matters. It's a shitty joke, but one needs to fairly analyze what is being said here.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

While this is true to a certain extent, it's worth remembering that Musk is a naturalized citizen. The Constitution would have to change for him to actually become president. On the other hand, in the US, it seems money can buy anything these days, so, who knows...

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

Lex Luther:

Do you have any idea how much power I would have to give up to become President?

— Justice League Unlimited

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago

Candid noose.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago

http://archive.today/DoFBr

Protip: use archive.is to get around them