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Late in his team’s game against the Green Bay Packers on September 15, Indianapolis Colts tight end Kylen Granson caught a short pass over the middle of the field, charged forward, and lowered his body to brace for contact. The side of his helmet smacked the face mask of linebacker Quay Walker, and the back of it whacked the ground as Walker wrestled him down. Rising to his feet after the 9-yard gain, Granson tossed the football to an official and returned to the line of scrimmage for the next snap.

Aside from it being his first reception of the 2024 National Football League season, this otherwise ordinary play was only noteworthy because of what Granson was wearing at the time of the hit: a 12-ounce, foam-padded, protective helmet covering called a Guardian Cap.

Already mandatory for most positions at all NFL preseason practices, as well as regular-season and postseason practices with contact, these soft shells received another vote of confidence this year when the league greenlit them for optional game use, citing a roughly 50 percent drop in training camp concussions since their official 2022 debut. Through six weeks of action this fall, only 10 NFL players had actually taken the field with one on, according to a league spokesperson. But the decision was easy for Granson, who tried out his gameday Guardian Cap—itself covered by a 1-ounce pinnie with the Colts logo to simulate the design of the helmet underneath—in preseason games before committing to wear it for real.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Yeah, I think the NFL should start looking into hiring older players, especially with the amount of anabolic steroid usage, like maybe no one should play at all till the age of 30 or 40 so they don’t screw their lives up. Not saying anabolic steroids are bad but sports aren’t really good for children and neither was school, but working was. And everyone ruined that. Making someone feel old is never a good thing.

Yeah way to impress adults that watch the games, no one actually watched sports in high school besides the losers that played them, everyone else was working and self employed. They actually were supposed to be doing population control through overpopulation for the NFL or other sports to exist. That’s why no one played or hung around or wanted to go pro. It was all bad.

The NFL can’t really exist because certain areas depend on foreign business men, so basically the games couldn’t be rigged and fake owners or stock or share holders can’t exist. Especially with online shopping and all they may not import or export meaning buy or sell to/from other places. Everyone who actually did this whole capitalism thing was like a new mafia called the Russian mafia and operates through hotels. And look at Trump back in there. And also no one would use social media because of people or single people or celebrities and nudity and competition, what the fuck does that say to areas like Detroit that lost in the playoffs but everyone comes here to Michigan to get high and smuggle weed in or out. Seems like a crack epidemic in small numbers takes place. Meaning anyone who actually talked or wrote anything starts smoking the rock. Also no one would repay debt when competition is like that with other things and foreign banks or embezzlement funding it, anyone who witnessed anything in person or knew real details wouldn’t bother investing or doing anything, they were forced into it. Debt does not exist in capitalism unless you speak to people and somehow convince them for some kind of front or loan, if they offer it was probably an abundance of free or naturally farmed or grown stuff.

Sounds like a war will go on instead of sport games.

So real business men wouldn’t watch sports. But then again that place in New York and Pennsylvania is just where they sell all the stuff they stole from the Detroit sole proprietor.

It’s just like this with city governments and news broadcasts because of the NFL meaning Detroit Lions airing every game on free to air television. It started in 2009. Before like 2006 games were only over the air and just Native American tribes playing it and switching out.

I guess the lions aren’t cable TV enough, or they just do this whole entire thing from the west that we will never visit but look at that they use our money and now traveling west became weird because there’s giant numbers of Africans, Asians, or South Americans there or it’s just Africa doing this there. But that’s the mobile phone and similar customer base. Everyone in the East in thiefs, this is why we stuck to selling pills and high grade pot and gambling, no one would ever be able to steal that money. If someone on Xanax didn’t kill you then they forgot.

Western Europe was better for us as ford and automobile users/makers.

The lions can’t actually win they have a real stadium that’s owned by a car company that operates as a monopoly and controls the real United States government and currency, because it’s a fake country with fake history, it’s just fords game you all play. Actual television watchers hate sports entirely.

What if we said we were so competitive in sports that foreigners can’t come to the area or state or play for the professional sports teams. This is also why the music industry hated sports and or the arenas, it almost became the same thing with music groups and then stealing songs and money. And then losers break into the industry trying to do the same thing through checking accounts and deposits at bank branches.

The real music industry was more depressing and lonely than the porn industry, but look at that real porn sold had music in it. The other porn the porn industry just watched, no one else needed it reality based or to hear talking.

[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, they don't even look that weird. Slow adoption is likely just due to the culture of machismo in sports, because the choice to wear it or not is up to each player and they all rib each other for being soft or a pussy all the fucking time.

Even getting MLB catchers to start wearing gloves was like pulling teeth back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Can you imagine trying to catch a 90 mph fast ball gloveless? Fuck machismo, I need to use my hands tomorrow

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Were they actually throwing 90mph fastballs back then? As I understand it athletes weren’t like…training to be athletes in those days. I always thought early baseball was a bunch of pudgy near-drunks who were good at throwing or hitting or catching.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago

Even if it wasnt going 90 mph its the balls would still be going a respectable speed regardless, reminder we are literally evolved to throw shit even a person with a shit throw is still gonna get it going with a good bit of force.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I was gonna say cricket but their keeper is actually the only one allowed to wear gloves lol

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The actual logical conclusion of this will almost certainly be proper deformable helmets which gets replaced frequently during the game.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I doubt that, given that NFL players are generally expected to wear the same helmet all season (unless it's damaged or too old). It's no longer a rule, but it was a rule from 2013 to 2021.

A player's helmets must be the same model under the new rules, so you couldn't even have 1 normal helmet and 1 deformable helmet. I think that the ability to wear the Guardian Cap over top of a normal helmet is one of the main selling points for that reason.

Deformable helmets would be a great idea to try, though. I just don't think it would be timely. Maybe in 30 years?

[–] [email protected] 81 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Maybe we should change how the game is played instead of putting helmets on the helmets

[–] [email protected] 51 points 3 months ago (2 children)

We've seen the same issues with hockey. The use of plastics in shoulder and elbow protections versus the older leathers and felt padding. When delivering a hit both players feel it, today not so much as a plastic shoulder goes into a face it's more one way.

As much as they have been changing the rules, a crazy part of me wonders if less equipment might help more, like those old leather helmets. Would players not be hitting as hard?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 months ago (1 children)

NHL players not wearing full masks is the height of idiocy. Most of them have worn full masks for at least a decade before going pro so it's not like they're going to get screwed up by them.

The really scary thing though isn't the plastic shells. Those are fine as long as you have proper gear yourself. It's getting cut by a skate. Every year one or two players will die from getting cut. It's wild to me that Hockey literally has an acceptable death rate without talking about things like underlying medical conditions.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Is it really that wild? Hockey players are insane people. They literally cannot remove fighting from the sport without the entirety of Canada revolting.

The referees back off and give people space to fight. In the middle of the game. They go from refereeing hockey, to dirty boxing, then back to hockey. It's a crazy sport.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I mean...

Aren't there rules for the fighting tho? Like you gotta drop gloves sticks and helmets.

And then don't both guys fighting ( in this hypothetical scenario) get the penalty?

Idunno man it seems downright civilized if you ask me.

Fwiw, I've literally never played hockey in my life. And the last "fight" I got in was a playground scuffle back in fight grade.

Edit: I meant fifth but it's funnier as fight grade

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

In 2023 it was a guy in England. In 2022, a 10th grade kid in Connecticut. 2024 hasn't had one yet though. So yeah.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (4 children)

You could be right. CTE wasn't known about back then, but you don't hear a lot about pro football players in the first half of the 20th century acting like the ones today.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There wasn't as much media as there is today either, so that may be a factor.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago

There's also the fact that advanced in nutrition, exercise, and medicine mean that today's players move faster and hit harder.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

Look at the size/build of the players back then compared to today... It probably didn't happen as much because people weren't as big and didn't hit as hard.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Also enjoying that we have a method for reducing concussions by half, but it isn’t mandatory in games why?

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Yeah one of the biggest issues is the fact that nobody teaches how to properly "hit" and, equally problematic, how to properly "be hit." Contact sports don't have to be as violent as they are now.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago

I think rugby does a fantastic job of this. It's a much more controlled violence.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Would I be way out there to suggest that if you have to go to these lengths to protect a player, maybe it's not a good sport for the 21st century?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (48 children)

If people want to play it & people enjoy watching it, why discard it rather than make it safer?

I enjoy skydiving, drinking copious amounts of alcohol, & eating fried foods. It’s on me to do those things in moderation.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (5 children)

You aren't practically guaranteed to have life changing injury from skydiving, drinking, or eating. Several studies have shown that over 90% of football players have CTE. It's not the same, and not a question of moderation.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

"It is tradition that athletes must be harmed for our entertainment."

I'm not sure that people have moved on all that much from Roman gladiatorial combat.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

I don't think you could really say they're changing the nfl, I'm watching the game right now and I don't think there's a single one anywhere on either team. In fact other than maybe one or two players I don't think I've seen anyone wearing them at all this year.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago

Get rid of the pads and helmets and play like the rugby.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

Thought it was this guy:

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