Yet another reason to never use Chrome
this post was submitted on 17 Oct 2024
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I think Brave said they arent affected by this
Firefox needs to work on ensuring seamless compatibility with more websites, web apps and so on, because I'm personally very bored with my kids' schools and related services sending out emails and forms with links that simply won't open in FF but are clearly expecting Chrome or Edge where they work fine. Yes, this is on the lazy developers, but if FF want wider scale take-up outside of geeky niche groups then this is the stuff they must fix.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If your site doesn't work on Firefox your site doesn't work. As web developers your job is to develop applications for the web not for one specific browser. This goes double for essential services.
Doesn't really matter to a regular user, in that case it's"Firefox doesn't work"
Slack calls disabled for firefox users, but if you change the user agent to chrome it works...
Okay that's fine, but when websites are effectively writing
if user_agent_string != [chromium]
break;
It doesn't really matter how good compatibility is. I've had websites go from nothing but a "Firefox is not supported, please use Chrome" splash screen to working just fine with Firefox by simply spoofing the user agent to Chrome. Maybe some feature was broken, but I was able to do what I needed. More often than not they just aren't testing it and don't want to support other browsers.
The more insidious side of this is that websites will require and attempt to enforce Chrome as adblocking gets increasingly impossible on them, because it aligns with their interests. It's so important for the future of the web that we resist this change, but I think it's too late.
The world wide web is quickly turning into the dark alley of the internet that nobody is willing to walk down.
Can you send me an example? I don't think I ever really encountered those sites and I use FF almost exclusively for ~20 years.
I encounter this very infrequently. I think I only have 1-2 examples at work. It's not a huge deal for me to spin up a chrome for those one or two occasions.
I recall I didn't get some sites working on Chrome either, when Firefox fails me 😅
Firefox can't fix all the broken sites in the world, but they do investigate issues reported to https://webcompat.com
You can help by reporting sites that don't work for you.
What to do when the site is not compatible with Firefox: Alt + ←
Honestly I'd say the Internet isn't safe, and it's because of Google, fuck you Google. It's not just the wine I've been drinking, it's true dammit.
When was chrome or chromium safe?
Bloated memory hole in the last 10yrs.
The way it goes about Sucking up resources convinced me to switch to Firefox completely long ago.
Yes it was performance that first got me to switch too. But now I have plenty more reasons.
Also Firefox mobile has nearly all of the extensions as the desktop version so it's more similar across all of your devices. Personally, I use LibreWolf on desktop and Mull on mobile, but they're just tweaked versions of Firefox with some bloat and telemetry removed and preconfigured to be more private.
Welcome back to Firefox everyone! At least if you're as old or older than I. 😁
It's time to fork chromium!
Am I going to die?
We all do.
Opera GX has promised to keep MV2 in their code. So I'll just keep using that until I see something different. The other thing is that Opera GX has built in ad-blocker which is pretty much on par with third parties.
Firefox is not the "great browser" you think it is. It has had its fair share of fuckups and failures over the years, like laxed security certificate updates leaving users in limbo.
Google didn't come and just out do Firefox. It was the other way around, firefox fucked themselves with poor management and failure after failure, and people left. Chrome was the new boy in town, and that is why firefox is where it is today.
Also, I would never use firefox, if I do need an alternative browser renderer, I use WATERFOX which is far more privacy compliant than firefix ever has been.
brave i think has that too which is a controversial browser as well waterfox is a great browser tho.
here are the reasons you shouldnt use opera or even operagx btw: https://rentry.co/operagx and brave
Holy fuck, I knew about Brave, but not Opera.. I'm glad I never even tried it.
Yw dude :)
What date is is getting rid of mv2? Read the article couldn't find a date
We will now [Oct 9] begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable. This change will be slowly rolled out over the following weeks. Users will be directed to the Chrome Web Store, where they will be recommended Manifest V3 alternatives for their disabled extension. For a short time, users will still be able to turn their Manifest V2 extensions back on. Enterprises using the ExtensionManifestV2Availability policy will be exempt from any browser changes until June 2025.
So there is no single date for normal users, but June 2025 is fixed for enterprise (and expected date for Brave, Vivaldi)
is ungoogled chromium affected i use that as a secondary browser for some extensions
Yes, by default every Chromium browser is affected. It is just a matter of
- whether they want to extend it to the enterprise time (which Edge and Opera won't do IIRC)
- whether they'd try to keep it working after enterprise time (maybe Brave and Vivaldi, but it could take a lot of effort)
- whether they even have an alternative place to download extensions from if CWS takes MV2 extensions down (Brave has some workaround for few extensions, not sure about others)
Maybe there will be some devs working on Ungoogled Chromium to keep the support, but they also have to think where users would even get the extensions from.
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