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We’ve been anticipating it for years,1 and it’s finally happening. Google is finally killing uBlock Origin – with a note on their web store stating that the ...

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago (7 children)

Firefox needs to work on ensuring seamless compatibility with more websites, web apps and so on, because I'm personally very bored with my kids' schools and related services sending out emails and forms with links that simply won't open in FF but are clearly expecting Chrome or Edge where they work fine. Yes, this is on the lazy developers, but if FF want wider scale take-up outside of geeky niche groups then this is the stuff they must fix.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

I've said it before and I'll say it again. If your site doesn't work on Firefox your site doesn't work. As web developers your job is to develop applications for the web not for one specific browser. This goes double for essential services.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

"ugh just use a normal browser"

  • everyone
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago

Doesn't really matter to a regular user, in that case it's"Firefox doesn't work"

[–] [email protected] -4 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

That's some BS. You and i both know that Chromium has the largest share in the browser business, so it makes sense from a development perspective to develop websites that will reach the most people. It's on Firefox to optimise their browser so that it can run these sites as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 36 minutes ago

On the same line of thought, we should remove sidewalks and bike lanes because cars use the road more

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

A single company shouldn't be able to dictate how the web works.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 53 minutes ago (1 children)

Well too bad, because that's how things are

[–] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 hours ago

Slack calls disabled for firefox users, but if you change the user agent to chrome it works...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 hours ago

Okay that's fine, but when websites are effectively writing

if user_agent_string != [chromium]
     break;

It doesn't really matter how good compatibility is. I've had websites go from nothing but a "Firefox is not supported, please use Chrome" splash screen to working just fine with Firefox by simply spoofing the user agent to Chrome. Maybe some feature was broken, but I was able to do what I needed. More often than not they just aren't testing it and don't want to support other browsers.

The more insidious side of this is that websites will require and attempt to enforce Chrome as adblocking gets increasingly impossible on them, because it aligns with their interests. It's so important for the future of the web that we resist this change, but I think it's too late.

The world wide web is quickly turning into the dark alley of the internet that nobody is willing to walk down.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Can you send me an example? I don't think I ever really encountered those sites and I use FF almost exclusively for ~20 years.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Its a frequency of use thing, and also some required sites. Examples are sites hosted by schools, government, or workplaces.

Although most people using Firefox aren't aware of spoofing the client to look like chrome, so that might need to be talked about more.

That all said, I don't have problems with any required usage, the only ones I have an issue with are on my phone, using mull, some sites payment forms won't load or work correctly. Taco bell is pretty bad for that and then the app wouldnt work either for a while. I also run grapheneos though so its hard to say what's the cause there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago

Hm, okay. Maybe it's just a US government page thing then. Here in Germany firefox is still at 20% and used to be the standard browser until 5-6 years ago, so maybe pages are still optimized for it here.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 hours ago

Firefox can't fix all the broken sites in the world, but they do investigate issues reported to https://webcompat.com

You can help by reporting sites that don't work for you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I encounter this very infrequently. I think I only have 1-2 examples at work. It's not a huge deal for me to spin up a chrome for those one or two occasions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

I recall I didn't get some sites working on Chrome either, when Firefox fails me 😅

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

What to do when the site is not compatible with Firefox: Alt + ←