Gotta do what you need to.

Hopefully kbin development can fix their moderation tools and eventually be reconnected!

Hi - mod of a small kbin.social mag here - @13thFloor - and a lemmy.world user. Is there anything we can do on our end to help mitigate the problem, or make it easier to flag spam that makes its way to Lemmy? I'd be more than willing to include a note to the lemmy.world admins if a spam post is deleted off of a mag I mod here- just need to know who to contact.

Side notes - Ernest (kbin.social admin) just responded on the spam issue here. The community has been actively working over here to flag and remove spam accounts (I've personally flagged close to 100). According to the most recent news from @ernest earlier last week, we've got a software update incoming, and a magazine cleanup in the works that will hopefully make an impact.

Devs learning in real time why social media (especially decentralized) should be designed moderation first in design.

Seems like a very reasonable compromise to deal with the situation.

Thanks again for the transparency and keeping everyone in the loop.

Hopefully this is resolved quickly. We are stronger together.

Quick reminder that kbin was still fairly early in development when the reddit exodus began and sped things up much sooner than anticipated. A few teething issues are to be expected and Ernest, the dev, has been open and communicating about what's going on.

Spam has consistently been the death of the open internet, even the big tech silos struggle with spam (Instagram for example -- despite having incredibly invasive techniques for identifying "genuine" users -- is STILL inundated with spam commenters). I think instances on the fediverse should reconsider their open registration policy, either totally close registrations when you reach an agreed upon critical mass of users, or adopt some form of invitation or application system for new users. I believe Mastodon supports both in the software.

I also noticed there was a lot of spam from kbin regarding the online sales of pharmacy drugs that require prescriptions.

Good transparency. Thank you for your work!

Thanks for not cutting us off. I sub and post to a lot of lemmy.world communities, some of them small, and wouldn’t want to have to stop contributing or make a new Lemmy account.

Understandable, have a nice day.

Thanks for not defederating us! -Kbin users

Ernest is working on a major update for Kbin but it might be still a couple weeks out.

So that's why the modlogs were going ballistic. Oh, well, I hope things are fixed soon.

There's been a heap of development going on with kbin recently, with a release upcoming. Overall the development process has been a bit slow with Ernest (the guy who owns the project) having personal issues to resolve.

Definitely the moderation process needs to be improved so that we have better ways of addressing spam so it doesn't bother other instances.

Personally I'm of the opinion that we should be using a metric based system where we weigh in the users date or creation, overall interactivity, upvote / downvote ratio and other data to potentially flag spam users. But honestly fighting spam is really hard and all of that would have to be built (plus it's a public repo so bad actors could look for how this is pieced together and find new ways to get past)

Pretty unfortunate, but definitely better than defederating. I'm glad there can still be a link to some degree. Hopefully the moderation tools on both platforms improve soon. I appreciate the transparency and willingness to take on more work in order to maintain some link. I think it is important for the integrity of the fediverse. But also important to remember you all are doing this in your spare time.

Damn, I main Kbin 🙃

Manager of Managers (MoM) will be required long-term it sounds like.. thanks for the good work all.

I'm worried kbin development is stalling.