Salaries should by law be capped at max 10 times the lowest
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Doesn't Japan have a system like that? The difference in the lowest and highest paid employee can only be so many thousands different?
Yep, my friend works in a Japanese company and his CEO only makes 3x his salary.
It’s unfortunate that it also requires you to live within shooting range of North Korea and China. Because Japan is a nice vacation spot.
Don't forget appallingly long working hours.
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Then they'd just get two jobs at the same company, and get two salaries or some other loophole the lawmakers planned for the whole time.
Preferable to 319 jobs I'd say.
You people see the fuckery, shrug your shoulders and say "eh - just let them get away with it".
Fuck that, and fuck them - don't be conned into emptying your pockets to spare them the trouble of robbing you.
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It probably will bankrupt him. But only because he built his business on the basis of exploiting employees. He won't make money if he doesn't do that. Which of course means he shouldn't be in business.
He is only CEO. Ford going to zero will only sting, it cannot bankrupt him.
Your point remains.
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Looks like we found one job that should be automated by AI to save Ford 21 million dollars a year.
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If you make $100,000 for 40 years straight that is $4M. This dude made $21M in a single year. Ford’s share buyback program in 2022 totaled $484M. GM’a share buyback program totaled $3.4B in the past twelve months. We live in a fucked up world. Meanwhile, Ford/GM/Stellantis employees cannot afford to even buy the vehicles they make or feed themselves decent food.
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CEOs need to take pay cuts. They earn too much and don't provide enough value for their pay.
The rise in CEO wages is actually unbelievably ridiculous:
For context, this research paper was also pre-pandemic.
On average, CEO salaries jumped about 30% since this research was released. Here is an updated article by the EPI EPI Research
Also for context - on 1965, average CEO-to-worker salary ratio was 20:1, and in 1985 it was 59:1.
Not it's almost 400:1.
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I thought he looked a lot like Chris Farley!
Looks like while all of Chris's brothers got in to comedy his cousin Jim decided to become a laughing stock of a person instead. You did it all wrong, Jimbo.
Just broke my brain a little bit, that crazy!
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Well yeah? If his workers make 66k how is he going to make 23 mil this year?
Read "Bullshit Jobs" by David Graeber guys. It's really worth it!
Is this Guy related to Chris Farley? I definitely see some resemblance.
Yeah they're cousins.
Holy schnikies!
Total revolution needed. Workers that do the real thing barely can feed their mouth, while those useless management ceo got huge cut
Laughs in 20k a year.
Hope the cost of living helps offset that.. what company has been stealing your labor from you?
Big Lots, worst pay to effort ratio of anywhere I've ever worked. Working harder than I ever have for less than I ever have until I find something else.
That sucks smelly ass, sorry to hear that, maybe try and organize once you have another job lined up? I'll never forget working the morning shift at hardes, literally the most stressful job I have ever had, for the least pay I have ever made. I got a job at a factory and made twice the salary, but did a quarter of the work, and I had to hear the people I work with denigrate fastfood workers wanting to raise the minimum wage to $10 an hour, cause they thought they worked so much harder and only made $12 an hour. They pit us against eachother while eating caviar from fishes that are going extinct because they are actively poisoning every aspect of our society and our world simultaneously and living in opulence that make the Kings of old look modest. Shits gotta give...
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No one should earn that kind of money period.
Why are these posts specifically aimed at car company CEOs?
Are they begging for money in Congress again ?
Is this an anticar thing ?
Are they in union négociations ?
The American autoworkers union is currently striking due to stalled contract negotiations.
To add this for posterity, there is an additional component to the U.S. autoworkers union striking. In 2008 during the global financial crisis (with things like robosigning foreclosures, predatory loans with ballooning interest rates, etc.), some U.S. automakers were asking for government bailouts, which eventually were granted. These bailouts were entirely taxpayer funded. Now the automakers are refusing to meet union contract negotiations. Automakers not paying employees cost-of-living, or frankly, just salary increases is upsetting, but the additional hypocrisy of U.S. tax-paying citizens bailing out these companies with their own money in 2008, and then not having the companies return some of the wealth in 2023 is enraging.
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Forgot to add that when the automakers were begging for government bailouts, the automakers had to take away worker pensions and some benefits to "protect the system". In 2023, the U.S. autoworkers union is fighting to get those benefits back for the workers.
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How could you be so heartless? How is he supposed to afford his second super yacht?
The wrong Farley died in 1997.
Ford has 186,000 employees. His entire salary, divided amongst every employee, would be $112.90.
He's certainly overpaid - like pretty much all CEOs - but this is a bad example.
Its called juxtaposition my guy, Ford also spent almost half billion on stock buybacks last year which could have been used to give every Ford Employee a $2500 bonus to share their profits, but instead they used it to buy back stocks...
And buying back the stock has the effect of making the stock price go up. And guess who gets the most stock? The CEO and C suite. They give themselves huge raises by doing this and it's perfectly legal :(
Well see that's a good example. Ford is a profitable business, and should be paying their employees. All I'm pointing out is that the CEO's salary - in the specific example of this business - does not represent a significant proportion of what is being taken from the average employee. That's most likely going to the shareholders.
The CEO's are partially to blame, but more blame lies with the shareholders, and also the legal system that mandates the CEO's act in the interest of the hypothetical worst, most profit-hungry shareholder.
The dividend is only 15 cent a share. It is almost 10%. It should be around 5%.
Personally I think there should be a law you can’t borrow to pay dividends. They must come from cash
Personally I think there should be a law you can’t borrow to pay dividends. They must come from cash
Fucking absolutely. But that's a drop in the bucket of financial fuckery that goes on, which is a very big elephant in the room.
It’s a larger part than you think. It’s another part of manipulating the stock.
Companies should be regulated better. They should get tax relief when employees are paid well with good benefits. I don’t care if a company pays taxes as long as the employees are making money. They’ll translate to taxes being collected other ways.
What I can’t stand is all the bullshit waste and games.
I think layoffs should be severely punished by either taxes or forced severance.
I don’t care a ceo makes 20 million but there should be regulations to make sure they’re earning it and not just manipulating things
I mean I personally think income should be tax free up to a relatively high amount. Like 6 figures, minimum. You're giving up your time, in service of a business which itself is in service of society, you shouldn't have to subtract from your reward for that to give more. The business' taxes should be covering that.
We should be heavily taxing investments, the times when people don't actually do anything themselves but pay for things to be done, with the plan of getting money back and giving as little to those that actually did the work as possible. The business owner gives the minimum to their employees and takes all the excess for themselves.
What's needed is a sliding tax scale where employers benefit from giving out higher mean salaries, not median, such that employees and employers both together benefit from the success of the business. If you pay your employees better, up to or maybe a little above the average income, your business gets taxed less. That's the sort of government incentive we should be having.
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Sure, but Ford made a profit of 10 billion last year according to google. That means that they can give every single one of those 186k people a 6000$ raise and still be left with almost 9 billion in profit.
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Did the post day to divide his salary to everyone or did it laugh at the thought of a living wage bankrupting his company?
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Companies should just do a rotational CEO from their pool of workers and give the position a nice 20% salary bump for the term of the position.
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