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The Abandon Harris movement that sprouted late last year out of the widespread outrage over the Biden-Harris administration’s support for the ongoing Israeli war on Gaza has officially endorsed the Green Party’s Jill Stein for US president.

The endorsement is the first of its kind for Stein and the Green Party, with the Abandon Harris campaign being the first major Muslim-led political group to endorse her campaign this election cycle. Last month, a smaller group, the Muslim American Public Affairs Council NC, also endorsed Stein.

“We are not choosing between a greater evil and a lesser evil. We are confronting two destructive forces: one currently overseeing a genocide and another equally committed to continuing it. Both are determined to see it through,” the Abandon Harris campaign said in a statement released on Monday.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Voting for Stein in a FPTP voting system doesn't solve the problem that's been turned into a one issue campaign slogan. Even if she was the perfect candidate. The only realistic option is to try and change the stance of one of the two that can win the election, and out of those two choices, suddenly who to vote for is obvious. If it wasn't already.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (28 children)

The only realistic option is to try and change the stance of one of the two that can win the election

Which is nearly impossible, ergo it isn't a solution. Revolution is necessary.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only realistic option is to try and change the stance of one of the two that can win the election

How would you propose to do that while also offering said party an unconditional vote? I'm not American, but if you have an answer it would be useful here too. Parliamentary systems end up pretty much the same.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

Is Harris going to implement RCV? If not your argument is a red herring.

You know who is implementing RCV? Jill Stein.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

This doesn't make sense. How could the "Abandon Harris" movement start late last year when Harris wasn't even the candidate?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Can't wait for tolerant liberals to go full mask off and claim these Muslims just must not be smart enough to realize the threat of Trump... Again.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 month ago

They’ve been saying that for months right here on Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

One of said liberals is malding at me right now for pointing out that they are being blatantly racist.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (15 children)

You don't think Trump is going to be infinitely worse than Harris on this issue in particular?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago

Being murdered in a genocide seems about as worse as it can get. Would Trump reanimate the corpses and then murder them again or something?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 month ago

It doesn't get worse than being genocided, is the point these people are making.

Both Harris and Trump, equally think Muslims and other unwanted statistically brown people deserve to be subject to genocide and are willing to commit massive amount of funds to that end.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago (42 children)

Absolutely not. Historically, the DNC and GOP are in lock-step for foreign policy.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (6 children)

If Trump were doing it you might getout of your chair and materially oppose it rather than making excuses for an imagined lesser evil genocide.

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