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On one hand, eff Microsoft and install Debian. It'll run on a potato.
On the other hand, I look forward to the coming glut of secondhand PCs I can install Debian on.
As melon scratchers go, that's a honey doodle.
I think we're gonna see a dramatic rise in Linux systems in the coming years if Microsoft keeps this course. Nvidia have started upping their Linux driver game as well so it's gonna be a breeze to pick up decent second hand systems and reselling them with a proper OS that'll take us to the end of the world in 24 years.
Been reading this sentiment for twenty years now.
And yet it's stayed true. Linux is above 1% on steam and rising every year, it's never been easier to buy a Linux device, or install and use Linux for desktop consumer purposes, and even the tech uninformed know Microsoft is a bag of dicks.
Recent Linux gain is inflated due to Steam Deck. Their market share has been pretty stale for years at 1,5%.
That's not really being inflated, steam deck and the prerequisite investment into proton is why most gamers can switch to Linux without encountering a single issue these days.
If that were the case, the market share at least should have doubled after people saw it was viable for desktop gaming. That didn't happen. It only gained a predicted increase from the estimated sales of Steam Deck's, which indeed inflates the desktop PC numbers.
I think you’re massively underestimating the laziness of most people, and overestimating their level of concern. People. Don’t. Care.
Don't you mean 13 years and 3 months? At least, that's when the UNIX Epoch ends...
Thank you MS for working so hard to boost Linux market share.
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Either way, you're net positive.
My computer can't upgrade to Win11 and I am buying a new one, but I'm putting Linux on it.
My computer can upgrade to win11. I clearly remember the vendor stating that when I bought it last year.
I'll stick to linux, though.
Mine too. I tried 11 and went back to 10. Honestly, only thing keeping me on Windows currently is my plex*arr servers. Guess I have a year to figure out docker.
I have parts on the way to build a new PC. Believe it or not, also Linux.
I will not be upgrading to W11. Some time between now and when they sunset W10 I will be switching to Linux.
PCs that can’t run Windows 11 are valuable to people who don’t want to wake up one morning and find they’ve been upgraded against their will.
Or I could switch to Linux...
OH WAIT, I already did that, darn. Such a shame I can't ditch Windows twice.
This isn't news, it's just the standard notice that Microsoft isn't going to spend time making their new shiny OS work on 10+ year old hardware.
You make it sound like an older gaming rig wasn't powerful enough to run win 11. It's not about the older hardware being too weak, it's about enforcing their TPM bullshit with which they aim to gradually create an apple style walled garden where they control what you can do with your machine.
idk, sounds like an ad for Linux to me
FTFY
New Shitty “Os”*
*(Legal Disclaimer “Os” is actually malware)
I dunno, I've got a laptop who's CPU was too new for win 8.1 to have drivers or support for it, and is too old to put win 11 on it...
This is the first time they've intentionally cut off the ability to run their OS at all just based on hardware age when it could otherwise run it just fine.
Not dedicating support to old hardware is one thing, blocking it intentionally is something else entirely.
Oh, that laptop? High end gaming laptop that was 6 years old when Windows 11 released. The fact it's blocked is flat out ridiculous, and defending it is equally ridiculous.
Yupp, Linux it is
After about 10 hours of reading and video watching, it seems pretty unanimous that linux mint with cinnamon is the easiest one to use and everything else is hobbyist stuff.
Windows isn’t even that good. The OS is kind of a huge mess. It has two unfortunate advantages though: it’s the default on many devices, and (because of that) software availability is best. I wish it wasn’t the case.
It also has the benefit of inertia. Everyone knows Microsoft from either school or marketing. They are the standard and anyone else has to fight decades of standards. It also helps that they historically created the best tools for easily managing fleets on machines. Now days they are pushing everyone to Azure but before they had the best tools to build your business on. It was so convenient to have Windows server with all the server stuff like AD, SQL and IIS. They basically were they only well known option until the last 5-10 years.
If one's hardware is 10+ years old, I don't think upgrading to the latest OS is likely high on their list of priorities.
~~Blizzard~~ Microsuck: "Don't you all have bank accounts?"
Smells like Microsoft air in here... A bit stale, dirty, corporate vibe.
Windows users have no idea what they are missing out on by avoiding Linux.
Honestly, I'm afraid of how complicated it sounds and have no idea where to begin.
In my opinion Linux is now easier to install than windows. The installers don't have any user hostility built-in, nagging you for Microsoft accounts or activation keys or any of that crap. Once it's Installed you could park your grandma in front of it and she'd be able to figure out how to surf the web.
I'm pretty sure that there are grandmas now who have actually used Linux.
The only difficult part is getting Linux on to a USB stick. After that, you boot your computer from the USB stick and click next, next, next until it's done. It's super easy.
There are guides how to burn a iso file with the Linux distinction to a USB stick too. Just start there, see if you can do that as step one.
As for Linux distro, pick something common and easy, like Pop OS or Fedora.
Just run windows 3.1 dual booted with Linux mint. Easily the most rational decision.
"upgrade"
Why would anyone in their right mind want to upgrade to Windows 11? The only valid reason is you want to play an online multiplayer game that uses kernel level anti-cheat.
Considering I have Logitech devices that don’t even work on Win11 without first disabling a bunch of security settings…why bother? When some of your major vendors don’t have drivers that work on win11 fully you might want to help them out first before forcing people onto that OS.
I just would like to point out that you would not be using Windows 10 on or past Oct 2025. You have exactly one year to move on.
As soon as it reached end of life you know it will immediately be a huge target. Don't let personal preference put you at risk.
One more year of dual-booting should be plenty of time to ween off the Windows teat.
just give contractors the option to sell their pcs without your bloatware for a hundred bucks cheaper or something
So in other words, switch to Linux, never look back, bever again use anu Microsoft software or product. Done.
People talk about Linux as if it's easy to use for most people. Also the reason I never switch to Linux is cause of the annoying Linux people who won't shut up about Linux
Humm, I installed Windows 11 on a really old Dell laptop (clean install). I'm sure it was not HW supported but it installed fine. I may have had to click something like, " Yeah I know it doesn't meet the specs"; but otherwise fine.
No, I don't like Windows but it's what my partner needed at the time.