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[–] [email protected] 109 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

The evil version of this is when people cite a click bait article, you go to the article and read the attached study and the study is not backing up their claims in any meaningful way. Like come on bro you clearly haven't read this study don't cite it and claim I need to educate myself.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Average YouTube influencer for me.

It's gotten even worse in the past year. Most of them sound like they're parroting AI summaries of blog posts and sprinkling stupid ass cutaway gags to memes. Like rather than actually consuming the entire body of context around a subject and having an informed take, they're just giving shallow thoughts and trying to monetize.

Any YouTuber whose whole angle is to spicy commentary on current events in tech/programming is definitely part of the trash heap.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The sources are released under a source-available license, you are legally prohibited from reading them

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Or you can get a monthly subscription for only $39.9!

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 week ago

That subscription allows you to ask the question to an AI that may or may not hallucinate.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Well, then... At least we will have apparently made enough progress by then to have eliminated the penny from circulation.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 week ago (17 children)

I literally had to cite the page number from the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023 Public Law 117-328 that covered how the $800M that Trump keeps telling everyone FEMA spent on migrants was a completely different fund than the disaster relief fund that FEMA uses for hurricanes. Which the DRF was established originally as it's own fund in the Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act of 1988 Public Law 100-707

It's page 4,730 where that item is located for anyone wondering.

I fucking hate what online interactions have become. I think I've easily read over 200,000 pages of government legislation, federal regulation, and legal proceedings since June because of the lies one orange shit stain keeps telling. I really do hope that the Republicans can move past that fucker, it was a lot easier to talk politics.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 week ago (17 children)

MrFilmKritic on Twitter has the answer for you.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago

Yeah, I decided this a couple years ago unless someone seems unusually reasonable. No source will ever be good enough. The block button is the best way forward for most people who ask for a source. Because you can tell most people think asking for one is "winning" as soon as it's asked

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because they want to exhaust the person engaging in a good faith discussion. It’s far more labor intensive to have to look for, find, verify for contextual correctness, quote and link said sources, then argue why one’s position is factually correct.

And all the other person has to do is cite some patently false bullshit in 5 seconds and disregard the argument.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I bet they saw the source and said "oh, yes, thank you for the source, I have updated my opinion based on this new information."

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The one on the right is a bearded 8 year old who never saw snow. He has a beard due to micro plastics. He thinks all pictures online of snow are AI generated. He’s also an asshole to everyone and rightfully so because his life and planet has been doomed. Welcome to 2034.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There are clips out there of FOX news saying "if global warning is real, then why is there a blizzard?!"

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Republicans have a hard time understanding nonliterals, it's honestly weird and one of the most common denominators between them I've noticed

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They seem to be fine with euphemisms and dog whistles.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago

Maybe willfully ignorant is a better way to put it

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[–] [email protected] 49 points 1 week ago (2 children)

ngl, I don't comment nearly as often anymore out of concern for anything I say to be misconstrued, argued, or wanting verification like this meme. Ya'll, I've got a job and a life, I can't/don't want to sit here and fight people. The worst gets assumed of anything and it gets difficult to have productive, much less positive discourse online.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

This is also due to a distinct drop in reader comprehension. One of the largest parts of reading comprehension is being able to infer the intended audience for a particular piece of work. You should be able to read a news article, see a commercial, read a comment, etc and infer who it is aimed at. And the answer is usually not “me”.

People have become accustomed to having an algorithm that is laser focused to their specific preferences. So when they see something that’s not aimed at them it is jarring, and they tend to get upset. Instead of going “oh this clearly isn’t aimed at me, but I can infer who the intended audience is. I’ll move on.” Now they tend to jump on the creator with whataboutisms and imagined offense.

Maybe you make a post about the proper way to throw a football. You’ll inevitably get a few “bUT wHaT abOUt WhEElcHaiR uSerS, I hAvE a baD ShoUlDer aNd cAn’T thROW SO wHaT abOUt me, I haTE FoOtbAll wHY aRe yOU SHowiNG tHIs to Me, etc” types of comments. It’s because those users have lost the ability to infer an intended audience. They automatically assume everything they see is aimed at them, and get offended when it isn’t.

I have even noticed this started to affect the way media is written. Creators tend to make it a point to outright state their intended audience, just to avoid the negative comments.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

This is my first exposure to this idea and it's quite compelling. Couple that with the perceived tone being argumentative instead of inquisitive or ignorant and that's a recipe for disaster.

The fact the algorithms only care about engagement, positive or negative, means rage bait takes over too so that doesn't help the perception that a question is actually an attack.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

I first heard about it due to my buddy (a high school English teacher) complaining about how his incoming students were incredibly far behind in basic reading comprehension skills. We ended up having a pretty long talk about it, and he mentioned that all of his colleagues have noticed the same thing.

I did some digging, and discovered that language teachers everywhere have basically been lamenting the fact that the upcoming generation just straight up doesn’t know how to interpret media when it falls outside of their personal algorithms. I ended up talking with another buddy of mine (a writer for a magazine) and he mentioned that they have started needing to change the way they write, because people have simply lost the ability to comprehend what they read. Skimming the first one or two paragraphs is the new norm, even for in-depth news articles. So they have to load as much content into the early paragraphs as possible.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago

Hmm good point. Never realized there could be connection with hyper curated algorithm and main character syndrome.

Now I kinda understand why "just look away" makes no sense to these kinda people.

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Already feels like this sometimes

Source?

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've already had people demand "source?" for the most mundane facts. Why yes steroids do enhance physical ability.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Read the comment above yours, that's where I learned about it

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People are interested in sourcing of information in 2034? I see that as an absolute win.

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Winter is on its way out due to climate change. In around the year 2100, it's estimated that there will only be 3 seasons left, no winter. And summer will be much longer and much hotter. So the 3 seasons will be spring, then a 2-season long summer basically, then fall. That's it.

But you can already see the disappearance of winter today because there's much less snow and it's much warmer than like 30 years ago. (Speaking for Germany)

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Let's not vilify people asking for citations. With AI it's more important than ever to verify what you're reading.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago

I'm absolutely okay with vilifying people asking for sources on the historical existence of snow.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 24 points 1 week ago

I asked my employer provided AI assistant if this is true and it assured me that natural snowfall was disinformation invented by leftists in order to destroy our capitalist utopia.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I've heard a saying, two things you should never do on the Internet are argue or explain. It takes up a lot of mental energy and time to do it for no reward.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think in many cases the people who explain things are doing a huge service. They’re silently appreciated by many. The true GOATs of the internet.

I’ve read so many great explanations on Reddit for things in math, science, literature, etc and I feel very grateful to the people who explained them.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"The sky is blue"

"No stupid that's woke liberal propaganda Trump 2024"

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, that's the current trend here (Switzerland plains).

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Same here in Slovenia. 15 years ago we had at least 30cm of snow each winter that would stick around. Now if we even get any snowfall and not just rain it either rains the same day and the snow is gone, or the rain comes a day later and the snow is once again gone.

Also the local lake used to freeze every year. It has froten once in the last 15 years.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Guilty. Show me the almanac. I don’t trust nobody on the internet. Everybody speaks like they’re an expert.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm an expert on internets and this guy is wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And that's the same person who makes wild absurd claims but well just go off the rails and tell you to do your own research

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I’ve definitely noticed people who challenge anything you say by asking for a source, but make tons of unsourced claims themselves.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Where's your source for this? I've never noticed it so it just not be happening

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

Or when you bring sources and they straight up ignore them entirely...

I understand not wanting to read or go through the entire Marxist-Leninist books I recommend, not everybody has the time for that, but a 5-20 minute article? You waste more time debating me after the fact than you would have just reading the article, at least do me the courtesy of skimming it and trying to engage with my points.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If somebody would ask for a source it would already be a big improvement. Usually you are just classified as idiot if you dare to have a different view.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Family Member: Russia needs to invade Ukraine because they need a shield against NATO.

Me: But NATO wasn't going to attack them. It's a defensive organization.

That's what THEY want you to believe. (Was not able to clarify who "they" were during conversation, but got the impression it wasn't nato)

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I think it's totally reasonable to ask for a source about a historical claim if something hasn't been true for over a decade?

EDIT: My source for this opinion is here

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (9 children)

@sharkfucker420 We would have flying cars and spaceships in future

The future:

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