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[-] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Thanks George Washington Carver

[-] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oxalic acid is a normal part of the metabolic process. Your body literally creates it during digestion. Avoiding all oxalic acid intake is a nutrition myth and is basically impossible anyway. Fruits contain it, vegetables contain it, grains contain it. You eat it constantly. This person was already severely unhealthy if they gave themselves NAFLD and kidney stones. More likely the crap peanut butter OP was eating was full of preservatives and icing sugar and OP is probably chronically dehydrated.

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

"A pound or two each week"

Thats your problem right there. The next step up from peanut butter, in terms of calories (particularly fats) per kg is actual butter or lard. Its about 50% fat.

I imagine the rest is second hand regurgitation of info they dont really understand.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

As a gym rat and bicyclist i was having health issues. No drugs or alcohol. Lots of supplements.

I went oxalate free on a zero carb diet for several years and it fixed my auto immune disorder. I lost 30 pounds of muscle in the process because of a loss in appetite. I slowly readded foods into my diet. Turned out that I couldn't handle salicylates in large amounts. It's in most plants as well. 3% of the population shares my intolerance. We can't eat spices or herbs.

All humans have individual variances in our ability to process plant toxins. There's a reason why some people are more prone to kidney stones than others. It doesn't mean someone is unhealthy.

[-] [email protected] 151 points 3 days ago

They deserve credit for warning everyone about a situation people might not have realized was dangerous. Damn.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

Something doesn't add up to me. That is not a ridiculous amount of peanut butter for one week. We would hear about this more than some random reddit post if it was real.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

That is what they're admitting to, I think we can assume it has often been around double that.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

2 lbs of peanut butter is roughly 1.7 to 2 cups of peanut butter. That's quite a bit for one week.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

If that was a problematic amount half of /r/gainit would be dead by now

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

I had something similar happen to me, but instead of pounds of peanut butter i was substituting lunch for trail mix too often. One day I was passing white flakes that hurt like hell and it would come in waves if I tried eating any sort of nuts after. It's not peanut allergies, it takes a few days or so to feel these sharp cramps then I will be doubled over the next day. It looks like my bladder had dandruff.

I read it had to do with nut oils, and citrus supposedly counteracts it, so I eat oranges like mad if I ever feel it coming back and so far I haven't dealt with it again since. I'm really not the type to go over my diet or look into health things like this, but holy hell it hurt and that seems to be the why and also the how to help.

[-] [email protected] 120 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

“I eat relatively healthy”

“Sometimes my only food in the entire day is peanut butter”

[-] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago

I have a niece who is literally obese (>30 BMI) and her mother (also obese, even more so) frequently describes her daughter as a "healthy eater" despite the fact that her diet mainly consists of cake and ice cream, in enormous amounts. She considers it "healthy" because it's all organic from Whole Foods.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

Or maybe "healthy eater", not someone who has a healthy diet

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

Healthy eater as in eating other healthier people.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Natural peanut butter is very healthy. But of course it shouldnt be the only thing you eat

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

I honestly don’t care what food it is. If all you eat in a day is quinoa, that’s unhealthy. It’s not the food, but eating just one food type in a day is unhealthy.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Relative to my diet, that is pretty healthy.

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[-] [email protected] 100 points 3 days ago

A few people are in here saying a pound or two a week is an unreasonable amount of peanut butter.

But when you buy peanut butter it comes in a 1-2 pound jar. If it's your main source of protein, your favorite comfort food, or you have a poverty pantry, then I could totally see how you might think that one jar a week isn't too bad.

Two pounds of peanut butter is about 6000 calories, or three days of energy for the average person. It shouldn't be the main staple in your diet, as OPs doctor will attest, but it doesn't seem strictly unreasonable.

I wonder how gourmet or homemade "nothing but peanut" butter compares to something like Kraft that's loaded with sugar. Probably still not super great, but hey, maybe it's better. Or maybe it's worse. Eat a variety if you can.

[-] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Eating peanuts or peanut butter for protein is weird because it's wayyyy higher in fat. Don't eat it for protein, it's a fat source really.

[-] [email protected] 39 points 3 days ago

Y'know, that's an interesting point.

I blame our nutritional education. I grew up with the Food Pyramid (now debunked), and peanut butter would be considered a "meat alternative" which I think people conflate with being a source of protein.

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[-] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

This issue can occur when eating one food excessively for long periods. I distinctly recall this being covered in pre- college health classes.

A common urban legend was the girl who only ate carrots and turned orange.

[-] [email protected] 29 points 3 days ago

the girl who only ate carrots and turned orange.

I can confirm this is a real thing. When I was a kid my step-mother went on this fad diet that involved drinking carrot juice every day. It was this whole production where she bought a juicer and I remember multiple large bags of carrots coming in the house. There was always leftover carrot pulp in the trash, etc. Anyways she went wild with it for a time and sure enough her skin started turning slightly orange, mostly along her forearms where the skin was thin.

That’s when the carrot juice stopped.

So yeah she wasn’t an Oompa Loompa but it was definitely a visible change.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Juicing is strange to me. The pulp is really healthy and should have been eaten or used in a soup or something, it's fibre and has good stuff in it.

Also I may be imagining it but I remember carrot pills being sold at one time to make yourself get a "tan".

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[-] [email protected] 61 points 3 days ago

Oh my god

I did not know that could happen.

Time to find some other foods to replace my #1 go-to 😟

Fuck

[-] [email protected] 43 points 3 days ago

I can happen if you eat a fucking pound or two a week. Do you eat that much in a week as your comfort food?

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[-] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Yes I do

I’m boring, I like having meals that I don’t have to think about as options to lean on in the morning. Pb and toast is my default for a low effort, no-brain-power-required breakfast.

During my poverty days I ate that as my main source of calories in the day. At most I’d go through a 1lb jar in about 3 days, so like 2lbs a week back then.

These days I’m eating a plant based diet and have far more variety of foods I put in my face. I still go through a 1lb jar in ~1 week, unless I’m eating oatmeal or something else for breakfast for a stretch.

You know that ‘what’s one food you’d bring to a deserted island to eat forever’ question? My answer was always peanut butter. Have to rethink that now.

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[-] [email protected] 12 points 3 days ago

A pound or two a week sounds kind of moderate? I mean it's a lot, but if you like peanut butter? I don't eat nearly that much of it on average, but when I buy a 1 pound jar I usually finish it off in much less than a week. It's just an occasional thing for me though.

Are those oxalates only if the PB is getting spoiled or anything like that?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Its the consistency with which they would eat at least a pound of it a week that caused the problem.

Quite how something thats 50% fat can be sold as a health food is the real puzzle here.

[-] [email protected] 40 points 3 days ago

As someone who has always had a problem with calcium oxalate stones, I did not know peanut butter is so loaded with oxalates, so this is good information to have.

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[-] [email protected] 27 points 3 days ago

They cannot be eating relatively healthily if peanut butter is their only food for the whole day lol

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[-] [email protected] 16 points 3 days ago

A pound of peanut butter per week sounds insane but apparently it's only like 2 cups and I feel like that's an edible amount. It's a lot but if I really got a hankering for some PB I could do that. But then after a week I would be over it. I feel bad for this person though that apparently they think eating nothing but PB is healthy. A human body needs a variety of different foods and nutrients and evidently eating nothing but peanut butter isn't that.

[-] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago

A pound of peanut butter in a week is nothing; a pound of peanut butter a week, every week, on the other hand...

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[-] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

There's always cookie dough as alternative.

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[-] [email protected] 26 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Seems like you're good if you keep your peanut butter consumption under a fucking pound or two a week!

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[-] [email protected] 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

The quantity doesn't seem right to me, a normal american peanut butter jar is about 2 pounds. I feel like if the only thing you eat in a day is peanut butter that by itself would be about a half a jar right? Calories would put it at ~1/3 a jar for daily caloric intake but obviously you're going to overshoot if you're eating straight peanut butter. Half a jar in a week just doesn't sound that crazy to me, thats barely over 2 servings/day.

Also peanuts are low in oxalates compared to other nuts. The number I keep finding for a low oxalate diet is 100 mg/day. Apparently 200-300 is a typical amount. The highest number I found is 20mg of oxalate to a tablespoon of PB so 2 pounds a week is only 160mg/day unless I messed up the math.

*I think what happened here is OP is either predisposed to kidney stones and is generalizing the special diet they should be on to everybody else or is just overweight and leaving out that detail since everything I'm reading about NAFLD is that it's caused by obesity not oxalates.

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[-] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago

A pound of peanut butter is around 2600 calories. A pound of Nutella is about 2400 calories. Honestly not as bad as I thought initially.

1 to 2 pounds a week is 370 to 740 calories per day. Eating that much peanut butter for a week or so wouldn’t be too hard, but keeping that rate up consistently would be tough.

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[-] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago

Natural PB, or Kraft, Skippy, Jif? Cause that sugar shit will kill you.

Also, peanuts are not a nut, they are a legume.

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[-] [email protected] 14 points 3 days ago

I didn't realize that too much peanut butter could be dangerous, but I also am confident that I am eating significantly less than 5,300 calories per week in peanut butter / peanuts. If you're churning through 2-3 standard jars of peanut butter a week, that's just absurd.

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