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Does this trick actually work?

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[–] [email protected] 106 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

It's so stupid that we need to resort to these tricks and workarounds. Local account should be the first, default option. Using a Microsoft account should be a secondary opt-in option, only for that strange minority of people who would actually want to do such a thing on purpose.

[–] [email protected] 50 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish. It's one thing with hardware, since multiple designs are expensive to produce side by side. But not so with software. If they are forced to comply with some EU standard, they'll just make one EU compliant version and continue to fuck over the rest of the world with unregulated bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

You say this like they haven’t already done so https://windowsreport.com/windows-11-pro-vs-pro-n/

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We must save ourselfs and resist using those things.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Im already Daveing my self.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Any time I log with my Microsoft account on a Windows computer it also butchers my name and uses just some letters from it when creating folders and stuff like that. It's something that is stored somewhere only this specific action reads from, but it's happening for over a decade already with no idea how to fix.

Between that and the fact that windows now creates the Documents folder inside of OneDrive directly and gets all messed up if you move it out, I ended up buying windows Pro just to get back to an offline account.

[–] [email protected] 80 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
  1. DON'T CONNECT TO WI-FI

  2. Shit+F10 (you might need to hit Fn+Shift+F10) will open up command prompt

  3. OOBE\BYPASSNRO

  4. It should now reboot and give you the option to make a local account in the fine print

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

This is the way! I did this recently with a recent Win11 Pro installation.

This is also the proper way to name the user’s folder yourself instead of letting Microsoft decide. The auto namer often makes poor choices and renaming it breaks a lot of stuff unless you wipe and reinstall.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago

Is a requirement for getting hired at Microsoft the ability so show utter contempt for your users? Sure seems like it.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Another way that I became quite fond of using is Rufus.

When creating a distro it allows you to customize it. Set up language beforehand, a local account, remove hardware requirements and data collection by simply checking some boxes.

It's a very handy tool, saves a lot of headache with this bloody install.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Same here, and additionally NTLite.

Having the ability to build custom Windows installations, including 'in-place' editing, and the ability to update Windows without Microsoft silently reinstalling shit I don't want or need, with NTLite's 'Host Update' wizard, it has been well worth the 40€ for each version (no subscription too!)

I really don't want to sound like an ad, though NTLite has really made Windows a decent operating system again.

It certainly notable that Windows, once all of Microsoft's crud is stripped out, doesn't touch the CPU at idle, whereas a fresh install of Windows without customisation always consumed 2-3% of the CPU at idle.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don’t even have to do any of that, when it prompts for a Microsoft account put in nonsense, like [email protected] Then whatever for password. Keep trying to sign in with it until should prompt you to put in a name instead and set up a local account.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The article does it right: [email protected] and other similar things (e.g: [email protected]) will throw an error the first time you put in a password and it'll proceed to create an offline account.

The people that go through the steps like commands and disabling internet are making too much work for themselves.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I use [email protected]. Works like a charm.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)
useradd -m username
passwd username
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

net user username password /ADD

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

"User rhymes with loser, and a loser always comes last."

Sorry. I'm just too used to adduser.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you don't want a Microsoft account, at this point you should really consider switching to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I have a Microsoft account for my Xbox and for certifications but I have zero intention of ever using it to login to Windows.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Fair point but my games only run on windows.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Try a little Proton. There's also Lutris. There hasn't been a game I own that I haven't been able to play on Linux.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Proton is amazing as long as you don't get bit by anticheat, which thankfully is getting better.

Thankfully I don't play many games with anticheat so almost the entirety of my game library runs on my Linux install.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Unfortunately, two of my most played games (R6:Siege and Cod MW2) can't run on linux, and last time I checked Visual Studio also.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Same I just had this conversation last week with a coworker

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Subnautica multiplayer mod nitrox :( Ik its a reach to support but its literally the only thing holding me to windows

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, that sucks. I'm not much of a gamer myself. I know there are workarounds, but I probably would stay with Windows for games too if that was the case.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I’ll probably install a second SSD for Linux so I can dual boot for development.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Humorous, but I don't think that really applies here.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I recently noticed the tool Rufus has the ability to make a local account as part of the image

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Heh, I made the mistake of connecting to the internet, which removes the option for a local account. Even after quitting the setup and restarting the machine, it would skip the wifi question and ask for a Microsoft account.

I ended up using hotkeys to open console and using a command to disable the wifi adaptor, then another to reboot the machine.

After that it suddenly allowed a local account.

Whereupon I learned that there was no way to force it to use the dedicated GPU, win11 only allows you to enable it per program. Otherwise it decides when you need it.

I have installed win10 for now, but the writing is on the wall. When win10 is no longer supported we will finally make the switch to Linux.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

During setup, tell it you want to join a domain. This brings you to local account creation. Way easier than what the article says. They keep moving that around to make it harder to find though.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It should be noted that you only get a domain join option with the Pro version.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

On Pro you can select English (World) as the region and you don't get Windows Store and other crap installed. Just a nice clean Windows install. Haven't got a Home ISO to spin up a VM to test if that skips the online account creation/login though but I'll suspect it does.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Gentoo is easier than this

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, technically it's only difficult because Microsoft doesn't want you to make a local account anymore.

The difficulty is by no means necessary.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yes. I thought it was an obvious joke that it shouldn't be this difficult and that there are privacy-respecting operating systems out there.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sure, but that shouldn't be surprising. Gentoo isn't trying to intentionally make the process harder. I haven't installed it for years but even then it was fairly streamlined and easy for what you're doing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

tldr; select personal account, use [email protected] and any password

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I just did this the other day. For figure c you'll see sign in options. With that you have the option for domain join. Do that and it simply runs you through creating a local user. No domain join or MS account needed.

This was done on W11 Pro so your mileage may vary on W11Home

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Thanks all. The shift+F10 trick worked, despite my attempts at mistyping the command.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Slipstream

Or the old school offline setup

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

Omg guys I am also a part of linux community and asked them a distro for window user. They recommended zorin and pop OS. If you're a window user and scared of coding and terminal then those two distro are for you. There's an app store to install apps and the UI is better than windows. Do check it out, I am using it and love it.

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