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THE POLICE PROBLEM

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    The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.

    99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.

    When cops are caught breaking the law, they're investigated by other cops. Details are kept quiet, the officers' names are withheld from public knowledge, and what info is eventually released is only what police choose to release — often nothing at all.

    When police are fired — which is all too rare — they leave with 'law enforcement experience' and can easily find work in another police department nearby. It's called "Wandering Cops."

    When police testify under oath, they lie so frequently that cops themselves have a joking term for it: "testilying." Yet it's almost unheard of for police to be punished or prosecuted for perjury.

    Cops can and do get away with lawlessness, because cops protect other cops. If they don't, they aren't cops for long.

    The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.

    All this is a path to a police state.

    In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.

    Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.

    That's the solution.

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A police officer dragged Miami Dolphins wide receiver Tyreek Hill out of his car and then forced him face first on to the ground during a traffic stop

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[–] [email protected] 53 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This should be a boon for attracting top talent to Florida!

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 month ago (23 children)

Out of control racist pieces of shit cops. That's all true.

Also, separately and not related to this incident, Hill is a piece of shit human being.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yup. There's no need to argue at all. Just stop the guy, give them the ticket and move on. If a guy is too angry to deal with, so be it. It's not like talking louder or dragging him out is going to fix whatever happened 5 seconds ago that made the cop stop the driver. Just stop being racist pieces of shit cops, that's all we ask for.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Moreover, you now have their plate, which has their address on it. Mail the damn ticket if you're scared to deal with it in person or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Exactly! Get that license plate real good and high tail it out of there. No need to stay and make a bunch of kids miss their dad for a lifetime. Fucking get some doughnuts at the Wendy's and leave people alone!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wendy's doesn't have doughnuts, just sayin'.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If I, as a teacher, responded to a less-than-compliant, and upset student by even lightly putting my hand on them I would be fired and charged that day. Police, if we are going to have them at all, need to be able to handle this kind of situation without resorting to violence. Period.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Police, if we are going to have them at all, need to be able to handle this kind of situation without resorting to violence. Period.

Then we need to stop hiring conservatives as police. Normal (non-conservative) people don't behave this way, cops or not.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Not that you're not into something here, but make no mistake. Liberal cops are worthless parasites too.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

Those people have no interest in being cops.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 month ago (9 children)
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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (14 children)

Video Link:

https://youtu.be/pLKRKwmAtt8

Fuck the police. And fuck Miami/Dade police extra hard in particular. Their corruption is in competition with NYC and L.A.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sounds like they served and protected the crap out of him. This is what we now expect from our public servants 🤷

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Now? Police have been treating people this way since forever. Especially minorities.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Sounds like the cop tried rigging a sports bet

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I'm at work and can't watch the video. Why'd they pull him out violently? Was there some struggle beforehand, or did the cop just decide to be an asshole?

and what was the outcome? Was he arrested? Let go?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

The guy rolled up his window when the cops were talking to him. Any normal person would have spent the night in jail if they did the same, and then they would be paying to get their car out of impound, and then maybe their license would have been suspended too.

I'm not saying what they did is right, i'm saying cops in this country are assholes. That's what we expect them to be. That's what the policies ask them to be. That's what their bosses want. It's what the elected officials who set the laws and guidelines they must follow want. It's what most very old white people want.

We need real change, we just won't see it in our lifetime. We'd sooner see another dictator trying to conquer the world and committing genocidal acts than do anything to address the police problem here. Nowadays cops are just legalized bullies, just the way the ownership wants.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Hill was being a punk and rolled his window up on them. One of them roid raged out and yoinked him out of the car. I think they figured out who he was (probably thought he was a drug dealer based on him being black and the nice sports car) and gave him his traffic tickets and let him go.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He provided the paperwork they required from him and chose not to continue the conversation. When asked to step out of the car he complied and was thrown to the ground. He is not required to speak to them so why is he a punk?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

He did not comply. I watched the video and you're full of shit that he complied about stepping out of the vehicle. He also kept his car running instead of shutting the engine off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What legal command didn't he comply with to get put in handcuffs? Is he legally required to turn his car off? Did the officers ask him to turn his car off?

He hands the officer his paperwork at 0:10 closes his window at 0:26 in the video and opens the car window at 0:43 his door is opened at 0:56 he's on the ground at 1:02. It took the police 62 second to conduct the stop assess that he's a threat and take him to the ground. I know he's fast on the field but come on lol

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