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Out of every 10 games I play, maybe one of them is a close, even game where everyone is on roughly the same skill level - and that's probably me being generous.

Almost every game has people on either team not just losing their lane but going something like 0-17. I know it's early alpha and has had a huge influx of players recently so maybe it's to be expected to some extent, but even back in my Dota days matchmaking was never this bad. This is like, public WC3 Dota 1 lobbies level.

How are you guys finding it? Anyone break through the MMR barrier into a point where you're getting consistently good games? How long did it take, and what MMR? (you can check here

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's not just you, according to the developer on discord the MMR system isn't finished yet and isn't working properly. There's usually a skill gap in matches and it's pretty common to see people that are clearly better than everyone else and rack up 20+ kills.

It hasn't been too bad on my end, most of my games don't feel too unfair. Sometimes though a game is just over 20 minutes in due to snowballing. I also did feel like games got better the more I played so it might be that it evens out over time.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

I try not to care too much about that.

I've had games where half my team has disconnected, and still had fun. Won, even.

As long as I'm not getting utterly stomped, I can usually pull off some cool moments. And getting my fun that way has been a lot less toxic than worrying about team balance, ranks, and winrates.

I've had some matches where the other team just utterly overpowers mine, and some where my team completely stomps the other, but those matches tend to end quite quickly.

And personally, I find a certain pleasure in fighting against impossible odds, trying to make up the difference with skill and strats.

Matchmaking that makes every match even, tends to mean every match plays the same. That there's never a beginner on your team to mentor, never a beginner on the other team that you can teach about denies the hard way.

Never a single god-tier player on the other team that you overcome by coming together as a team.

So, I've actually been enjoying the shit out of the fact that each match tends to have range of skill levels.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A lot of the games I've played have had DC's, afk, people treating it like an fps and feeding a lane, and always a few consistent heroes.

I'm apparently in the top 6% and it really doesn't feel like it. Either the MMR system isn't very good or there are a ton of people still learning.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm apparently in the top 6%

How do you know? How would I find out?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

OP provided a link to and I found my profile on there.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

public WC3 Dota 1 lobbies level

so true.

wtf, someone already has 803 games played?!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

I'm having a great time. I'm def low level, but I learn something every game. On the shit games with griefers or some cheese ass enemy comp, i just pick a thing to practice and I dont worry about winning as much.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

One recent game I've played everyone was disconnected except me, so I had the whole map to myself. I explored the entire map and broke all the vases which was interesting. More to the point, I was also able to kill everyone that wasn't in base and collected soo many souls.

The next game I played was different then any other because my team played different then what I'm used to. Everyone actually farmed and retreated after finishing an objective (rather than keep pushing). It was as if the previous game "ranked me up" and I was placed with other people that were a higher rank which in turn helped me do better.

All previous games there would always be new people that would get pushed back really quickly and die a lot which usually meant getting destroyed by the giant snowball the other team became. That last game was refreshing, I'm sort of scared to play again. D:

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

I suck at the game but I still enjoy it.

I actually love playing against higher tier players and not having skill based match making. It's how a grew up playing games and it refreshing running up against cracked players. It's also how I learn to play better.

For instance I had a match last night that lasted 41 minutes. A large part of it was that I was so out matched I just pushed the objective. The other team had to keep running back to defend the base. Died 24 times but we won and I did my part. I also know I should never play Abrams. I suck at Abrams.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Theres no way youre having that bad of matchmaking. Almost every game im in the matches can go either way. I found that the match is easily more likely to go either way than what you might find in LoL, smite, etc.

I barely started playing the game and havent had what youre experiencing.

Have you considered that maybe you just need more time to learn the game? Maybe you understand the game but perhaps need to be more diligent on changing up your plays and adapting to each unique match?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like someone needs to get good

But seriously, it’s brand new dog, give the devs a chance to level everything out, the bots that Valve have coded can barely play the game, it’s not crazy to think that people are going to have a hard time adapting

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

Sounds like someone needs to get good

Toxic shit yo.