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[–] [email protected] 120 points 1 year ago (5 children)

One of my roommates in undergrad was from China, and whenever he went back to China to visit his family, we literally couldn't contact him because all the messaging apps/services we use are blocked in China.

Another family friend of mine lived and taught in Macau as a professor for a while, and he explained how he had to get a VPN just to access the regular internet.

Any government that locks down access like that is not one worthy of admiration. It's insane that people defend the CCP.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s insane that people defend the CCP.

They're already here, in this thread. Guess what instance they're from.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Judging by how empty I see this comment section I'm going to guess Hexbear.

I'm so happy we're no longer federated with them.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago

It’s insane that people defend the CCP.

You have to understand that there are a lot of people that genuinely like the CCP because under them, there are a lot of people that went from the likes of farmers and factory workers to a serious middle class, with all the improvements to the quality of life that entails. You'd be surprised what people are willing to forgive in exchange for this.

The CCP monitoring program also extends far beyond the country borders as well, and while they would not dare do an extraordinary rendition for pissing off the CCP, many expats still have family within Chinese borders that are completely fair game for the CCP to do as they please with. So many expats won't risk it. The CCP are already known for fucking with families just because some of its members have expatriated. And they don't have a limit to how far they'll go. Concentration camps are nothing new there.

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[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)
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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

You forgot to post a meme

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago

Is this trying to say people who support the most successful AES state and largest democracy in the world are not real marxists, but people who just believe western propoganda with rascist characteristics are the true marxists?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I wonder what happened to MLK and all the people who started the BLM protests in America which guarantees freedom of protest and speech. It really sucks that they all were either murdered or committed suicide and the police were never able to do anything about it.

Oh well, gotta let go and let god. Btw, did you hear that the evil Chinese Government sent someone who threw a firebomb to jail? Nasty stuff, glad I live somewhere civilized.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

So, instead of rehashing the same old talking points for the upteenth time, would anyone be interested in discussing China's political project in a broader and more mature way? Like for example:

  • Who do you think should've come to power following the fall of the Qing, through to the civil war (if not the CPC)?

  • Do you agree with the direction of Deng's economic reforms and opening up to foreign investment? If not, should he have stayed closer to Mao's policies, or should he have gone further towards liberalization, or something else?

  • What aspects or projects of the CPC have been good or successful?

  • What aspects or projects of the CPC have been flawed or unsuccessful?

  • What lessons can be learned from the successes and failures of the CPC?

Ngl I don't have high hopes for this comment but I'm tryin' over here.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (8 children)

i am once again relieved that cracker libs are too lazy and ignorant to investigate anything beyond the ccp bad that msm tells them, and that chinese libs hate themselves too much to think themselves worthy of educating their cracker lib betters about cpc atrocity conspiracy theories.

though tbf at least shit like tiananmen is falsifiable, i think i'd have an aneurysm if white people on the internet started telling me that mao never left his palanquin and ate the PLA's entire stock of chicken over the course of the long march. like big spoon stalin but in earnest mao-wtf

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I have a friend from China who's a lib and he's probably one of the most racist people I know (specifically against Chinese people). Just the other day he said Chinese people have never invented anything and that good inventions can only come from the US or Europe. He also wants to look, sound, and dress like an Ivy-league country club dude. Dude regularly reminds me of a Chinese Uncle Ruckus. Is that kind of self-hating common or is it mostly because he's from a rich family?

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Go back to hexbear instead of forcing politics onto general communities on the non-political instance lemmy.ml

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago

michael-laugh don't they ever talk about anything else?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 year ago

Also it's CPC

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago

I lost a parent to antvaxx stuff. A drop of her blood is on the hands on of every free speech absolutist who pushes that garbage and creates space for the worst people possible.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago

Liberals be like: Yeah I love democracy.

The thing I love most about democracy is that I get zero choice or control over who represents me in government at all and I let them make decisions for me that hurt me. In fact I celebrate it when they make decisions that hurt me

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