this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2024
6 points (100.0% liked)

NonCredibleDefense

6773 readers
1090 users here now

A community for your defence shitposting needs

Rules

1. Be niceDo not make personal attacks against each other, call for violence against anyone, or intentionally antagonize people in the comment sections.

2. Explain incorrect defense articles and takes

If you want to post a non-credible take, it must be from a "credible" source (news article, politician, or military leader) and must have a comment laying out exactly why it's non-credible. Low-hanging fruit such as random Twitter and YouTube comments belong in the Matrix chat.

3. Content must be relevant

Posts must be about military hardware or international security/defense. This is not the page to fawn over Youtube personalities, simp over political leaders, or discuss other areas of international policy.

4. No racism / hatespeech

No slurs. No advocating for the killing of people or insulting them based on physical, religious, or ideological traits.

5. No politics

We don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, Socialist, Stalinist, Baathist, or some other hot mess. Leave it at the door. This applies to comments as well.

6. No seriousposting

We don't want your uncut war footage, fundraisers, credible news articles, or other such things. The world is already serious enough as it is.

7. No classified material

Classified ‘western’ information is off limits regardless of how "open source" and "easy to find" it is.

8. Source artwork

If you use somebody's art in your post or as your post, the OP must provide a direct link to the art's source in the comment section, or a good reason why this was not possible (such as the artist deleting their account). The source should be a place that the artist themselves uploaded the art. A booru is not a source. A watermark is not a source.

9. No low-effort posts

No egregiously low effort posts. E.g. screenshots, recent reposts, simple reaction & template memes, and images with the punchline in the title. Put these in weekly Matrix chat instead.

10. Don't get us banned

No brigading or harassing other communities. Do not post memes with a "haha people that I hate died… haha" punchline or violating the sh.itjust.works rules (below). This includes content illegal in Canada.

11. No misinformation

NCD exists to make fun of misinformation, not to spread it. Make outlandish claims, but if your take doesn’t show signs of satire or exaggeration it will be removed. Misleading content may result in a ban. Regardless of source, don’t post obvious propaganda or fake news. Double-check facts and don't be an idiot.


Join our Matrix chatroom


Other communities you may be interested in


Banner made by u/Fertility18

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Hear me out:

Seats that drop out of the bottom of the helicopter

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

That way, the pilots can get to the ground first and cushion the impact of the helo 👌

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Just do a barrel roll while ejecting so you shoot up. Try not to hit your wingman with your copilot tho

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Some Russian helicopters do this

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

How many of those are intentional?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did it work? Like are the test subjects still alive lol that sounds like rear decapitation city

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

I think the main problem with down-firing ejector seats was that they require a minimum altitude to work.

https://aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/1439/is-there-a-minimum-altitude-for-ejection-seats

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm gonna turn to YouTube to see what I can find. This is pretty cool. Cars should have ejector seats too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They'd definitely have a minimum altitude to work

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

I think they did it in a fast and furious movie, I'm not sure if that's up to NCD standards.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Eject the helicopter not the seat. Duh.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Too hard to accelerate the helicopter's larger mass to Mach 19. You might still damage the helicopter on the rotor blades.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Attach the ejector seat TO the helicopter blades so that they both eject and you get a cool propeller and can fly around and it can shoot lasers and stuff too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Just eject the damaged parts. Viola

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Who brings a damaged viola to a warzone?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

playing with legos be like

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Just detach the blades. You can always re-attach them when you've landed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Works as a secret weapon too.

Oh you think I've been disarmed? *smirks* AMATEUR *violently ejects rotor blades in all directions*

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I was just thinking the entire rotor assembly detaches and the helocopter falls away from it. But I think I like your idea better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

That's what the Ka-50 does

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

I doubt you'll need to if you already had to eject.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Who would win?

Two human skulls 💀💀

One twirly boi 🚁

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Sus. I watched AirWolf, and Magnum P.I. AND I've studied Leonardo di Vinci. Helicopters are next-gen tech and they don't crash.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Ironically the helicopter casted as Airwolf did crash, killing all its occupants. 😞

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Yeah that sucks, I didn't mean to go there

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (4 children)

I think i heard one time that helicopters can jettison the rotor so you dont get chopped up

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Unfortunately, that won't stop the blades from spinning, meaning the danger isn't averted.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The Kamov does it.

The individual rotor blades are separated from the center with an explosive charge and their centrifugal motion carries them laterally away from the vehicle as the seat rockets straight up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

As a bonus, whoever was close enough to shoot you down is about to get at least one heavy steel javelin flung terrifyingly close to their direction at high speeds.

I'm assuming here that impact with a long range SAM is probably something you're not about to eject from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

In cases like that I'd imagine you'd try and eject prior to being hit, though I don't know enough to know how much warning time there is.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

not much, considering how many of Ka-52s were shot down without pilots ejecting

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

You shear the blades so they shoot outwards. I couldn't find an irl testing video, but here's a render.

https://youtu.be/a1kr651en7g

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Mainly just copium for the pilots. Helicopters aren't like airplanes where you have glide time and altitude to decide what to do after something bad happens. If you watch fixed winged ejections there's usually about 30 seconds to a min after something goes wrong before the pilot decides to bail. Helicopters go from everything being fine, to a debris field in seconds.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's more about altitude than the ability to glide. Helicopters can do what's called Auto rotation, which means they actually can glide. If the blade seize up however, they can't autorotate. Helicopters fly a lot lower than most airplanes though, so they can't glide as far.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Autorotation is mostly copium as well.

Explanation

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Wow. I'd be nuts to fly one of those things. 6000 VVI sounds like suicide

With the collective firmly held down on the bottom stop, things happen very fast. The helicopter is descending in a hurry, as in 4,000 – 6,000 feet per minute. Do the math, if you are at 1,000 feet and the descent rate is 4,000 feet, you have one quarter or a minute – 15 seconds – to find a place to land.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Now you have blades shooting away from the helicopter at a high speed which could kill someone.

load more comments (3 replies)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

So basing off another comment. Have the Ejection seat tied to the rotor and shaft (not in a way that the chair spins. Duh)

Then (as long as rotor hasn't disintegrated) you can eject the seat with the rotor, thus minimizing filet chances... Whilst also floating to the ground softly like those whirly paper helicopter things you played with as a kid

Boom. Parachute free ejection seat

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Hold up, let him cook

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nah, just do it like they did in WW1; synchronize the ejection to the rotor blades so you fly through the gap, clean as a whistle.

(Please don't ask about our experiments with the earlier WW1 method of "Fuck it, just shoot the propeller sometimes, it'll be fine". Turns out that doesn't work so great when you replace bullets with people.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Didn't they also put some sort of armoring on the propellers back then?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Some planes did, but early on they mostly just freeballed it. Turns out propellers are really big and heavy, and they can take a few bullets without breaking. Armour actually makes it more likely that fragments of bullets will fly back at the pilot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, spall was my first thought when I read they just shot the propellers.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Oh boy I love it when death is multiple choice!

  1. Fiery explosion
  2. Cuisinart of Doom
  3. Squeezing your brain into hips
  4. 9mm of lead therapy
  5. Other: __________
[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago

Now this is the kinda content I subscribe to

load more comments
view more: next ›