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Apologies for the slightly off-topic post...

It's not looking good, folks...

George R R Martin confirms he hasn't written anything for the 2 remaining A Song Of Ice And Fire books since 2022.

He wishes that they were finished.

The last published book in the series, A Dance With Dragons, was published in July 2011, now 13 years ago.

Obligatory song that's now 12 years old... https://youtu.be/j7lp3RhzfgI

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Logan Lucky came out in 2017, and this scene is still relevant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You think the ending of the show sucked? Imagine how he felt watching that shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

He probably couldn't see the tv due to the big pile of money sitting between him and the screen covering his view.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I would suggest that it was the broad outline of the same ending he planned and shared with DnD just implemented badly. He's probably more pissed that they made his ending so unpopular by completely botching the landing as he now can't use that same ending without risk of rejection. I still maintain it would have sucked as an ending even if it had been implemented at the same standard as series 5, but what we got made it far far worse.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, he basically spoiled the ending with the tv show and now he needs to come up with a new one. Not that he actually will. He'll never finish the series

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I'd be happy if he did the same ending again, just with his characteristically excellent writing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So no one read the article? Just the headline?

This references a statement he made in 2023 which itself references a statement he made in 2022 saying he had the same number of pages completed.

This is an assumption that he has done nothing, rather than the far more likely situation of rewrites and editing.

People seriously some basic media literacy lessons.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine you're writing an epic tale that gets converted into the world's most popular TV show, then flown into the side of a mountain by some shitty director. I'd imagine the hate mail and public ridicule he probably got would make anyone lose the drive to finish.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

at this point this is a HL3 situation and it's better if he never finishes the series. it will never live up to expectations. leave it be. if you enjoyed the story so far, celebrate that and move on. it's about the journey, not the destination.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He's never finishing the series. He's going to be 76 in a month, he still has probably most of Winds to finish after 13 years, the math doesn't work out to getting A Dream of Spring, let along the fact that this story is way too big to satisfactorily conclude in 2 books at this point, and even if it could be done it would be complex and difficult and take longer than usual.

I'm irrationally still hopeful we get Winds. But that is it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Just make sure that Martin takes decent notes so that Sanderson can be tapped to bring the story home. Sanderson did a marvelous job finishing Robert Jordan's giant story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Brando Sando has answered the question a bunch of times, and said he's not interested at all. Also, GRRM previously said he would never allow it to be finished by anyone else. Who knows? Maybe the publisher will force it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Also, GRRM previously said he would never allow it to be finished by anyone else

If I remembered correctly, Jordan had also expressed similar thoughts, look how that turned out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If he really wanted it to remain unfinished he could have pulled a Pratchett and have his hard drive steamrolled.

(Though, to be fair if you really want your data gone you should probably use thermite.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Or just drill a few holes in it, then remove the disks from the drive and microwave them for 10 minutes

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Or just drill a few holes in it

That isn't always as effective as you'd think, especially with SSDs...

Holey SSDs, Batman!

microwave them for 10 minutes

Yeah, that'd probably do it (though I'm not sure what it'd do to your microwave.

Thermite is guaranteed to destroy your data (and probably the floor, or the floor and the table if you're dumb enough to do it on a table, and anything too close to your data... but that's besides the point, the data will be unrecoverable, that's the point).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I love Sanderson, he is my favorite fantasy author, and you are correct about his marvelous job finishing WoT, but he is just not the right fit tonally for ASOIAF. He doesn't even write swear words, and GRRM's books are fairly liberal with the fucks and the cunts. I would however be in favor of Joe Abercrombie or someone with a bit of a darker bent to their writing taking over if needed.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

He doesn’t even write swear words

Kelek's breath, man. He swears all the storming time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention his Mormonism may be at odds with the sex scenes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Just add more women - polygamy was all the rage in Mormonism back in the day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

On the other hand, if you let Sanderson do it we would have the whole series finished and published within 18 months of GRRM passing it on.

People are going to gnash their teeth and rend their garments over those books no matter what.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I hear he plans to bring in Patrick Rothfuss to pick up where he left off and also not finish the story.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sanderson is genuinely a pillar of modern fiction

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

writes a lot, anyway

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Sanderson did a great job, but my only critique was that the Tower of Genji part seemed rushed. The build up to that was almost as important as the Last Battle.

Also, I've read the series nearly 3 times and I stand by this statement: Fuck Faile. Fuck Perrin. Useless cunts

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sanderson did a great job, but my only critique was that the Tower of Genji part seemed rushed. The build up to that was almost as important as the Last Battle.

I don't think the rushing was Sanderson's fault, but Jordan's for leaving so much unfinished. My understanding is that when Jordan died, Sanderson was asked to write the "final book". When looking at the material that remained to be written Sanderson said it needed way more than one more book. He ended up writing three, but I wonder if the material may have called for five. Sanderson had his own stuff he wanted to write and didn't want to live for more than three-book-years-worth in Jordan's universe. I can't blame Sanderson for that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm not saying I'm displeased at all - I'm just saying, that in a perfect world, I would have liked to have had him spread out the writing a bit more. You're absolutely right - he had his own shit to do. He did an amazing job, all things considered. He also did us WoT fans an HUGE HUGE solid, and finished the damn thing when there was next to no hope that it actually would be finished.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I personally wonder if Jordan wrote himself into a corner with the Tower of Genji. The magic system and tone didn't really match the rest of the WoT universe. If you look too closely at it, it raises all sorts of nasty continuity questions for the universe as a whole. The Tower of Genji smells like a deus ex machina.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No mention of the rush of the ending? Who WAS Elan and why the link to Rand? So many questions left

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The ending was pretty fast but it hit a lot of the points it should have. I don't remember Elan since it has been a while and I'm neck deep in Malazan.

The link with Rand: i am guessing you mean what happened to him at the end? That makes sense if you recall him crossing balefire streams with Mordin in Shadar Lorgoth

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

Yes elan is moridin. They have a sit and chat in one Rands later visions, and even resemble each other as I recall.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I liked Perrin a lot...until Faile showed up in the first place.

But I can't argue your statement.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

A whole book spent hunting for her? C'mon

I'm with you though he had so much potential in the beginning. His overall story is cool, but I just couldn't get past RJ forcing me to read a whole book of nothing but Perrin tying knots in a strip of leather.