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That's a weird thing to call it, man. (lemmy.world)
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[-] [email protected] 73 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Didn't Jesus know from the beginning that this was the last supper? Maybe it would have gone more like:

Jesus: Okay guys, now everyone knows what to bring for the supper.

Judas: Master, you didn't tell me what I should bring.

Jesus: Don't worry, traitor- I mean, Judas. Your presence is more than enough at the last supper.

All the apostles: "The last" what?

[-] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago

Probably unleavened bread with roasted lamb and bitter herbs, as it was Passover.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Nice 😏

[-] [email protected] 68 points 1 month ago

Pretty sure its doctrine that Jesus knew it was the last supper

[-] [email protected] 66 points 1 month ago

Why else would he hire a 26 seat table and a painter?

[-] [email protected] 32 points 1 month ago

The painting wouldn't have to be so big if they used both sides of the table.

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Fint forget the kangaroo!

[-] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

After all, he sacrificed himself to himself to convince himself to forgive you.
If he didn't know, that would make no sense at all.

[-] [email protected] 19 points 1 month ago

Jesus knew that Judas would betray him before Judas knew that he would betray him.

[-] [email protected] 12 points 1 month ago

Also, Judas is vilified for doing what God made him do. Seems harsh. And 20 pieces of silver is 20 pieces of silver.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Did you just shortchange Judas 10 pieces of silver?

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

He got his 10 pieces of silver, fair and square. What would you even spend 5 pieces of silver on back then?

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I want to see the pawn stars meme with Judas trying to sell Jesus. “This messiah… it’s just gonna sit here.” And “I know a guy who knows about messiahs.” Then chumly is gonna go take him for a ride on a motorcycle in the desert.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

His messiah guy? Pawn-tius Pilate.

[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

That's why he didn't take my offer, I reckon.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

Now that you mention it, it’s really Judas we should be thanking for all this. Otherwise Jesus might not have died for our sins. He might have just gotten hit by a bus or a runaway goatskin cart or whatever they had back then.

[-] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

And Jesus has the audacity to say

Woe to that one by whom the Son of Man is betrayed! It would have been better for that one not to have been born.

Guess what, someone had to betray you for the story to go forward

[-] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

Jesus was basically calling bullshit on the scripted event that triggers the final cut scene where he loses regardless of how well he prepped.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

This is my headcanon now 😭

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

I bet he got really good at acting Suprised though what with being all-knowing all the time.

[-] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

In John there's no Eucharist ritual, but there's a scene where Jesus dips bread and feeds it to Judas.

This is explained away as a sign of who will betray Jesus.

In Mark, this again happens, but now it doesn't mention that it's bread, and immediately precedes a Eucharist ritual.

In Matthew, which was copying from Mark, it makes it a dipped 'hand' instead, further distancing any association with bread.

On a completely unrelated note, anyone ever wonder why in the Eucharist ritual, if the bread is supposed to be the body of 'Christ,' which is the Greek word literally meaning 'anointed,' the bread isn't being anointed or dipped in anything before being consumed?

Kind of seems like an oversight.

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

In the Roman Catholic ceremony, the priest drops a piece of the Eucharist into the wine and then drinks that together. That's the ceremonial 'dipping' part. It's easy to miss but I remember always wondering how that tastes, because those Jesus breads dissolve when you breathe on them. (I don't know how strict Roman Catholic churches are, but I imagine they try to keep that shit pretty standard)

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

So another detail to ponder is that canonically, John the Baptist never drank wine, and traditionally, neither did James the Just.

Yet the ritual for taking part in salvation necessitated drinking wine (especially as the doctrine of transubstantiation developed later on)?

So his mentor and brother couldn't partake?

We see as early as Ignatius discussion of a different Eucharist tradition, where he chastises the schismatic use of "evil herbage."

It's not a very straightforward development.

[-] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Well it wasn't an ordinary supper it was passover, wasn't it? Idk I never went to church

[-] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

They're saying the GOP is weird. And now they're saying Judas is weird.

Coincidence?

I think "not".

this post was submitted on 26 Jul 2024
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