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Why killing Trump is (probably) bad - Some thoughts on the morality and utility of political violence (ragdollx.substack.com)

submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Although it may be justifiable from a moral perspective, a Trump assassination would likely lead to the Republican problem becoming even worse as we've seen a slight bump in the polls after the attempted assassination, and the other Republicans candidates as just as if not even more of a threat than him.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 months ago (2 children)

The short version of the argument being made is basically this; if you think killing fascists will solve fascism, you're going to need a LOT of bullets to get the job done.

Trump is not the problem, he is the symptom. He's the GOP with the mask off. The toxicity he represents will not go away with his eventual death, whenever and however that comes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

Basically, you can kill people, not ideas

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also fascists like feeling like victims and REALLY like violence in response to perceived oppression. Murdering them will just embolden their behavior and they're certainly more depraved and craven than we are

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

See, that part I don't agree with. Fascists, for the most part, are cowards, and violence can, in the right circumstances, be a very effective tool in a broader strategy of denying them any form of platform or admission to public spaces. It is both effective, and a moral good, to punch fascists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

To be fair, the right wing of American politics is the one with more guns. Killing the man they love most is begging for trouble.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I said this the night it happened- If you kill Chancellor Hitler, you get Chancellor Göring. It's a systemic issue.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If you kill Hitler in 1930 he gets replaced, if you kill Hitler in 1945 Natzi Germany falls apart. The question is has the Republican Party become a personality cult yet?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Personality cults can find successors to the original cult founder. See: Joseph Smith and Brigham Young.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

I always thought it was "Bring 'em young" and referred to pedophiles.

I guess I wasn't too far off.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"probably"

This is where we are as humanity.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Do you think his assassination would be morally in addition to strategically wrong?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Yes!

Morally, I don't believe in killing humans at all, especially summarily and without due process.
Self defense being an obvious exception.

Which would make a strategic purpose moot. However, strategically it's dumb: half the voting public would likely revolt, violently, and a sizeable portion of the other half would react negatively at the polls.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

I want to agree but I think armed resistance is often necessary as well