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[-] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

When Biden beat Bernie it sucked, but the other candidates dropped out and put their weight behind Biden so it allowed him to get the most votes. That's not anti democratic, just strategy.

I'd say this go round will be much less democratic if Biden drops out, because registered Democrats more or less all voted for Biden and then all these party insider delegates will actually be the ones picking the candidate.

Don't get me wrong, I will still vote and advocate for pretty much anyone over Trump, but the Democratic party is not covering themselves in glory here.

In my ideal system we'd have ranked choice voting, so many people can run without risking being a "spoiler". If an individual doesn't have enough votes to get a majority, those votes will move on to the voter's second choice, then third choice and so on until someone has a majority of support.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

How is it not anti democratic? It's a group of elites collaborating to manipulate the system. The party primary system itself is antidemocratic.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Because the people still voted brother. The people made a choice with their votes. They chose between Biden and Bernie and they chose Biden. Nobody changed their votes. You can argue that Biden wouldn't have won if the others have remained in, but it was a straight up vote.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Can someone explain this one?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

I think it’s referring to the period when Berni was leading the Democrat primaries in 2020 and implying that Berni was unfairly treated to get Biden the nomination. And I guess maybe that potentially switching to Kamala is a continuation of the deceit.

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

How did they end up selecting Biden if Sanders (I assume that's who you mean) won and Biden was only fifth? Also seems like Biden wasn't all that popular if he was only fifth, which I guess was the point of the post.

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Basically Sanders was winning because all the moderates were split between a few candidates (Biden among them). On the days leading up to "super Tuesday" when 4 big states had simultaneous primaries all the moderates besides Biden dropped and endorsed him and he was also endorsed by Jim Clyburn a major democratic player(also black).

The people who dropped and endorsed all got some position of power. So essentially, Biden played politics and won and many people don't like the politics he played.

[-] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

Who's this "Berni"?

[-] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Fifth place but won the nomination?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Ironically they're making Donald Trump argument here. They're saying we should have stopped the count after just a New England's primaries. I guess New Hampshire is all we need to decide the nation's votes?

[-] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

that’s not at all what is being said here. the DNC had to pull all sorts of undemocratic shenanigans to forcefully prop up biden back in 2020 and we’re still paying the price of having these uninspiring losers as our only options

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