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It’s time to dust off those old CD binders.

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[–] [email protected] 36 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Nah man. If you care about your CDs you should already have them ripped to flac format, so the disc rot can't kill them. Convert to mp3 vbr0 for tossing them on a player or your phone. Listen with whatever ear buds you like.

It's not like vinyl or casette tape, where the analog nature of the storage medium is going to effect the sound. CDs are pure digital, just a carrying case for the files on them.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why mp3 vbr0 and not opus?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The only reason to use mp3 is if you want to play it on old devices. It's much better to use opus on anything that supports it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yeah, that makes sense.

Thankfully, most things I have support opus, even a very old iPod, thanks to Rockbox.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or buy your music from a source that offers both. I have flacs from bandcamp, but also CDs from those same albums

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That's the first thing I did with all my Frank Zappa cds... converted them to digital and put the cds away so they wouldn't end up scratched.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Is flac even necessary if they are coming off CDs? A CD is most often 192kbps mp3 format.

Ripping to flac is like ripping a 720p video to 4k and just filling in the extra resolution with black bars.

Edit: this is incorrect. See Captain Aggravated's comment below.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Flac or wav, right? Is flac smaller?

Or go 320kbps mp3...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

wav is uncompressed PCM usually, flac is compressed and as such smaller (difference in size depending on the kind of music), but they're both lossless with the resulting signal being bit for bit identical to the data on the CD.

320 kbps MP3 makes little sense nowadays except for when you need maximum quality for a device supporting nothing else. For long term storage, use flac.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 3 months ago (2 children)

This is one of those “they were so concerned with if they could do it, they didn’t stop to think if they should” sort of things.

Portable cd players were never actually that portable, because cds are just big. Minidisc players sure, but those never really caught on. MP3 players, however, caught on because they are small and easily portable, and the library doesn’t take up a binder.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Also portable CD players skipped constantly. Minidisc was way better for that, but then MP3 (and Limewire) hit...

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

With current technology you could make them a lot better. Basically put 700mb of flash memory on the player and rip the whole thing as soon as you put the CD in, then play from flash. But then you get back to why you would want to do something like that again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

That was basically how anti-skip worked, albeit with much less memory.

They would buffer the audio for like 10 seconds that way.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Heck yeah!

I had a Sony atrak 3+ player back in the day (around 2003-4, probably, because I used it at work) which was just an mp3 file compression alternative served up on a special cd player instead of an mp3 player… they tried.. anyway I had a re-writable disc that I’d add stuff to whenever I downloaded it, and I think the one cd had like 1800 songs on it or so (and lots of space left)

That didn’t skip, even working a physical job, unless I banged it against something. Part of why I got it. But when I put regular discs in, they would skip a lot if I didn’t have it laying flat.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's not a bad idea if you have a good library, but $180 is crazy

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It's got a balanced headphone output, so they are obviously targeting the audiophile market.

I don't know why anyone would want to use a portable CD player though. They scratch up your discs and skip if you move around too much.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

What would a balanced output do for the 3 feet of cable that will most likely be connected to it? I mean sure, put it in if you can't help it, but even though it's a portable player, no one is gonna take that to the next motor fab where it would benefit from a balanced output, and at home an audiophile most likely already has a better player around.

And yes you're right - the whole idea is nonsense to begin with. CDs have always been fully digital, so better listening options exist.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

A balanced output will have less crosstalk between the channels. I've never used balanced headphones, so I don't know if it's noticeable. My guess is the only really noticeable thing is that the higher output voltage swing from the differential amplifiers will make high impedance headphones louder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I have a bunch of audio equipment in a studio and do run some balanced lines to stuff that requires longer cable lengths that are in proximity of unrelated, noisy devices (e. g. digital stuff).

Can't say I can tell any difference for headphones.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

That's stupid

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago

Why would anyone want this

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah sure. Also, Milli Vanilli are back...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Pulled from the grave, just like portable CD players?

(Boo! OK, I'll see myself out. MV is a tragic story)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

portable players where always trash, this looks like some audiophile wankery that is only ever used stationary ... and I still have a real cd player for that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Cool, can’t wait to go running with one.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I suspect it’ll be quite popular in Japan. There is still a huge CD scene there.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

No they aren’t

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Who asked for this?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

This may sound crazy, but hear me out. What if instead of a spinning plastic disc we use a spinning metal one, for durability and to reduce movement of the medium while accessing data. It would also allow for much greater storage density if we stack a bunch of them.